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*** 2022 Mock Draft Megathread ***
Got a mock? Pop it in this thread. Include a picture if you want. Explain your reasoning if you want. Talk about your crushes... if you want.
See a good "pro" mock? Link it up in here and I'll add it to the OP. Duncan's latest mock Site The Draft Network This mock seems to be the most accurate site right now, so I go with this one. I don't pay for it, so no trades here. The plan is for this to be my last mock. I'm going to do it differently, though. I'm running 3 scenarios, and eschewing the 7th round picks, which I would use on a big swings on athleticism and potential. Lotto tickets. James Houston IV is one of them. Note: I used PFF to simulate the trade action, then manually backed up in the 2 "trade" drafts to make selections. Laborious, but gives you best of both worlds, IMO. I think PFF's trade tool is the best, but its board is whack. Draft slot: 29 Scenario 1: The Chiefs sit pat with their picks and don't make any moves at all. Seems the least likely, but hey... 1.29 | George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue. 1.30 | Boye Mafe, DE, Minnesota. 2.50 | George Pickens, WR, Georgia. 2.62 | Travis Jones, DT, UConn. 3.94 | Zyon McCollum, CB, Sam Houston State. 3.103(Comp for Poles) | Troy Andersen, LB, Montana State. 4.121 | Coby Bryant, CB, Cincinnati. 4.135 | Velus Jones, Jr., Tennessee Scenario 1 Debrief: So, sitting and waiting to see what comes to me was pretty successful here. The Chiefs FLOOD the defensive line with reinforcements, including at least 1 ready-made starter and two guys who should - at minimum - be in 50/50 rotations at their spots by year end. The Chiefs still get a big outside WR with tantalizing potential. They add some crazy athletic small-school guys, and a mid-round corner who just fits in the system, and a dynamo return man who might be more at WR. This looks pretty good. Though I have a hard time believing Karlaftis just falls to 29... Scenario 2: The Chiefs get aggressive and trade up. But for what? In this case, let's go wide receiver. In this run, Kansas City trades picks 29, 62, and a 2023 3rd to Houston for pick 13 and a 2023 4th, because they ARE as obsessed with a WR as people expect and are aggressive to go get him when the board falls right. They then trade BACK from 30 to 35 with the Jets, also including pick 94 in order to get 69 back. Then, last but not least, KC gets aggressive one more time and moves 103 and 121 for 85 from New England, leaving the Chiefs with 6 picks in the first four rounds. 1.13 | Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama. 2.35 | Cam Thomas, DE, San Diego State. 2.50 | Jalen Pitre, S, Baylor. 3.69 | Zachary Carter, DT, Florida. 3.85 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss. 4.135 | Jaylen Watson, CB, Washington State Scenario 2 Debrief: I'm not saying KC should do this or even that I think they will (more on that in a few minutes). I'm just saying, man, what will it look like if the Chiefs get aggressive a few times AND are doing the big move for a WR? In this scenario, KC obviously believes Williams is a game-changer at the NFL level and is taking a small 2022 hit to make 2023+ better. The defensive line still gets reinforced, but the reinforcements are all a shade worse than the sit-pat draft option. If you like Kingsley Enagbare or Josh PAscal more than Thomas, I get it and wouldn't quibble at one of those guys instead. Logan Hall, too. Pitre is such a screaming perfect fit for KC's D. Carter is a great physical talent you can dream about coaching up. Williams' utility is known and gives them a true RE option to pair against their higher-drafted bigger guy. Watson is a developmental corner. I don't love it. I think Pitre makes the secondary a lot better and makes it easier to move on from Thornhill after 22. They have improved the defensive rotation, though one of the DEs would need to outperform expectations in Year 1 to get it to the same level as Scenario 1. In all, giving up the 2 extra selections in the top 4 rounds hurts the depth you can build, but I think it's more like what KC will do. Scenario 3: Same movements as #2 1.13 | Jermaine Johnson II, DE, Florida State. 2.35 | Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State. 2.50 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss. 3.69 | Bryan Cook, S, Cincinnati. 3.85 | Martin Emerson, CB, Miss. State. 4.135 | Braxton Jones, T, Southern Utah Scenario 3 Debrief: This is the type of situation where I see KC paying the price to move up... if Johnson falls this far, I'd be shocked if KC isn't aggressively moving up. With this run, I take a risky but high upside WR in Watson (but you could sub in Pickens or Jahan Dotson or Tolbert or Metchie or Skyy Moore or really any of those tier 2 guys here if you prefer). The secondary reinforcements aren't flashy but are good fits. In this one, I think the plan has to become adding either another safety or corner in free agency before the season. Ideally, it's someone who can handle the slot and let Sneed thriver on the outside. The DL gets a major boost and some potential star power in Johnson and Williams, and the OL gets another T option and potential long-term starter to develop. Having completed the exercise and looking at the scenariors, I like the first one the most. But it really does come down to how the board breaks. Older mocks
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02-24-2022, 02:49 PM | #196 |
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Traded from 30 to 31 (Bengals) for their 2023 3rd round pick. They jumped up one spot for Penning, OT.
31. Jermaine Johnson, DE, Florida State 62. Jalen Pitre, S, Baylor Traded 94, 249, 260 and the Bengals 2023 3rd round pick from earlier to move up to 73 (Washington). 73. Kyler Gordon, CB, Washington 103. Justyn Ross, WR, Clemson 134. Dare Rosenthal, OT, Kentucky Traded 190 and a 2023 5th round pick for 153 (Seattle). 153. Josh Paschal, DE, Kentucky 231. D'Marco Jackson, LB, App. State 241. Ty Chandler, RB, North Carolina |
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02-24-2022, 03:47 PM | #197 | |
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03-01-2022, 06:46 AM | #198 |
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Traded from 30 to 36 and got pick 68, then traded down again to 38 and got 108.
38. Jermaine Johnson, DE (no way he's here) 62. Jalon Pitre, S/CB (doubt he's here) 68. Kyler Gordon, CB (probably gone and was tempted by Travis Jones) 94. Boye Mafe, DE (probably gone) 105. Skyy Moore, WR (probably my worst pick, not 100% convinced he's right) Traded 108 for 114 and 161. 114. Kellen Dietsch, OT 132. Matthew Butler, DT 161. Christian Watson, WR 192. Tariq Woolen, CB 229. Zaquandre White, HB 238. Velus Jones Jr, WR 239. Kenderick Duncan, S 247. McKinley Williams, LB 254. Dominique Robinson, DE Realistically I don't see those top four or so picks being there but hey, I'd take them. I'd also probably try and use those 7 round picks to move up a bit and just take someone of a little higher quality. |
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03-01-2022, 07:19 AM | #199 |
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Looking at all the mocks, there seems to be quite a bit of talent on DE.
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03-01-2022, 07:30 AM | #200 |
Baba Ganoush
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Mel Kiper just dropped his latest mock, thought you guys would be interested to see who he has for us.
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03-01-2022, 09:48 AM | #201 |
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Matt Miller has his latest.
30. Kansas City Chiefs Chris Olave, WR, Ohio State Olave would give Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes a lot of different looks. He’s NFL ready in terms of his route running ability and would open up the field a bit more for Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce. |
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03-01-2022, 01:25 PM | #202 |
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03-01-2022, 10:00 PM | #203 | |
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03-02-2022, 10:30 AM | #204 |
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30. Treylon Burks, WR Arkansas
62. Boye Mafe, EDGE Minnesota 94. Rasheed Walker, OT Penn State 103. Alontae Taylor, CB Tennessee 134. Yusuf Corker, S Kentucky Traded up in the 6th 181. Josh Paschal, EDGE Kentucky Traded up in the 7th 221. Jeremiah Gemmel, LB North Carolina 241. Ty Chandler, RB North Carolina Give me a S, DE, DT and WR in FA. Bring back Brown and Ward. |
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03-02-2022, 10:37 AM | #205 |
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Did a 4 rounder…
30. Treylon Burks 62. Jalen Pitre 81. Boye Mafe (traded 94 and 134 with Giants) 103. Alec Pierce |
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03-02-2022, 11:08 AM | #206 |
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DeMarvin Leal IDL, Texas A&M 62. Arnold Ebiketie EDGE, Penn State 94. Cam Taylor-Britt CB, Nebraska 102. Troy Andersen LB, Montana State 133. Nick Cross S, Maryland 189. Tre Turner WR, Virginia Tech 230. Jermaine Waller CB, Virginia Tech 240. Luke Fortner IOL, Kentucky 248. Zonovan Knight RB, NC State |
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03-02-2022, 03:06 PM | #207 |
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I feel like the mock draft machines are undervaluing Ebiketie a fair amount.
Than again, we kinda fell in love with Omenihu around these parts (arguments for taking him in the 1st) and suddenly he fell to the 5th, which was more in line with what the mock machines were suggesting at the time. Sometimes the CP Hive Mind talks itself into a player that isn't getting as much attention as we think he should for good reason. |
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03-02-2022, 03:08 PM | #208 | |
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Guy plays 4 years and puts a ton on tape, gets 4th and sometimes even 5th round draft grades. Then he has a standout senior bowl and suddenly he's a first rounder? I can't decide where the crazy truly is here, but there's crazy in there somewhere. |
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03-02-2022, 04:12 PM | #209 |
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Funnin’ around with an all Georgia 4 rounder…
30. Travon Walker Edge 51. Lewis Cine S (traded 62 + 94 for Eagles at 51) 103. George Pickens WR 134. James Cook RB |
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03-02-2022, 06:47 PM | #210 | |
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I don’t know if you saw his 2 sacks in the Senior Bowl game, but dude looked like he got shot out of a cannon. I think he’s just shown the traits that scream 1st rounder, which were always there, and the media is playing catch up. |
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