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Old 08-12-2014, 04:26 PM  
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Old 11-30-2022, 01:27 PM   #55051
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Old 11-30-2022, 01:32 PM   #55052
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You don't get it.

There's no system that makes a bad QB good.

Also, he's not "limited". He just sucks.
So everyone on here talking about the great job Carroll did with him is full of shit?
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Old 11-30-2022, 01:34 PM   #55053
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L’Jarius Sneed PFF Grade: 86.5
Patrick Surtain II PFF Grade: 78.8

You’ve quoted PFF scores a lot. Care to comment on this one?

Is the higher number better? Which player has the higher number? Who does he play for?

Didn’t you call Surtain the best corner in the league?
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Old 11-30-2022, 01:43 PM   #55054
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So everyone on here talking about the great job Carroll did with him is full of shit?
Does it tell you anything that the offense he left is now #1 in the NFL in points per play? With a journeyman QB?

I mean, seriously...how much more obvious can it get?
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Old 11-30-2022, 01:45 PM   #55055
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L’Jarius Sneed PFF Grade: 86.5
Patrick Surtain II PFF Grade: 78.8

You’ve quoted PFF scores a lot. Care to comment on this one?

Is the higher number better? Which player has the higher number? Who does he play for?

Didn’t you call Surtain the best corner in the league?
Broncos iz better at 16 of 22 positions!!
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Old 11-30-2022, 01:46 PM   #55056
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Surtain got roasted against the Panthers.

The ****ing Panthers.
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Old 11-30-2022, 02:01 PM   #55057
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Hey champ, ready for that big Broncos playoff push to start this week!?


It’s still preseason dude. Give them some time to jell.
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Old 11-30-2022, 02:02 PM   #55058
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Injuries have caught up to us. It’s hard to make a push when your top 3 RB’s, both starting tackles, starting center and 3 of your top 4 WR’s can’t play.

Your $260,000,000 QB is still healthy!
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Old 11-30-2022, 02:10 PM   #55059
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It's Hackett's fault that Russ can't execute an NFL offense.
This is definitely no defense of Wilson, who deserves all of the criticism he gets. But Hackett has been truly terrible, on a level I have never seen in the NFL. In my opinion, the blame falls more on him than on Wilson, if only slightly.

Chalk me up as one who believes Russell Wilson can be decent if he's put in the right system. He's not going to be a top-5 QB. But he can be passable.
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Old 11-30-2022, 02:21 PM   #55060
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This is definitely no defense of Wilson, who deserves all of the criticism he gets. But Hackett has been truly terrible, on a level I have never seen in the NFL. In my opinion, the blame falls more on him than on Wilson, if only slightly.

Chalk me up as one who believes Russell Wilson can be decent if he's put in the right system. He's not going to be a top-5 QB. But he can be passable.
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Old 11-30-2022, 02:24 PM   #55061
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This is definitely no defense of Wilson, who deserves all of the criticism he gets. But Hackett has been truly terrible, on a level I have never seen in the NFL. In my opinion, the blame falls more on him than on Wilson, if only slightly.

Chalk me up as one who believes Russell Wilson can be decent if he's put in the right system. He's not going to be a top-5 QB. But he can be passable.
So you traded 2 firsts, 2 seconds, and players AND paid a quarter of a billion dollars...

For Alex Smith.
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Old 11-30-2022, 02:26 PM   #55062
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Chalk me up as one who believes Russell Wilson can be decent if he's put in the right system.
That's just because you're still in denial trying to hold on to the last glimmer of hope that this won't be a 5 year shit show.

Sorry sport, but Hackett isn't the reason your QB attempts jump passes to get the ball over his OL's heads.
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So you traded 2 firsts, 2 seconds, and players AND paid a quarter of a billion dollars...

For Alex Smith.
And Tim Patrick's knee! We can't forget the hospital ball Russ threw Tim Patrick in camp that took out his knee. Add that to the list of costs.
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I swear the dude got shorter.
His vertebra have been compressed by the massive weight of his ego. He's actually only 5'5" now.
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So you traded 2 firsts, 2 seconds, and players AND paid a quarter of a billion dollars...

For Alex Smith.
Like I said, I am not going to try and defend Russell Wilson. But in fairness, that trade was roundly applauded by almost everyone when it happened.

I'm interested in seeing what he does this offseason. There was a point in the Panthers game where I thought about him, for the first time, "That is a broken man." Let's face it. The guy is not easy to like. But he was also on a Hall of Fame path, prior to this year.

Does this humiliation cause him to recommit this offseason, work on his body, his attitude, and his approach? Or, does he say, "I love my family; I love my life; I am fine with who I am?"

If that's the approach he takes, then I agree with all of you, we are completely screwed.
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