***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Ebolapox]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

From a dermatologist

Marc Serota, MD

I have a PhD in genetics and did rotations (as I’m sure this guy did) and took classes on infectious diseases. I could waste both of our time and spout some random knowledge rather than the part truth part twisted narrative dr pimple popper just dropped... you want to believe your narrative and I’d rather let you do so, but to everybody else...

Dr pimple popper obviously knows his viruses!!! ... sarcasm partly intended

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by Donger

On May 4, we had 148 cases
On May 5, we had 221 cases
On May 6, we had 319 cases
On May 7, we had 435 cases
On May 8, we had 541 cases
On May 9, we had 658 cases
Today, we have 761 cases

5x in 6 days.

Probably more due to ramped up testing than anything.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by BWillie

A male 30-39 years old has a 3 to 4 out of 1,000 chance of dying from this. Not very acceptable.

Where are you getting these numbers?

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson

5x in 6 days.

Probably more due to ramped up testing than anything.

Yep. And we'll get even higher numbers in the coming days. Still not a reason to freak out.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Put USA on lockdown for 1 month for big groups.

FU. If you don't want to go don't go. Personally I am looking forward to cheap tickets chicken little. Don't rain on my parade.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BWillie

A male 30-39 years old has a 3 to 4 out of 1,000 chance of dying from this. Not very acceptable.

If it was 0.2 out of 1,000 chance like the flu, probably not too worried and a reasonable risk. We don't want this to be a regular thing like the flu. If it does, hundreds of thousands will die.

There is no need to cancel sporting events. Just play without crowds. Most people think the NCAA or NBA not having crowds is some protection for the players. The players are fine. They don't interact with the fans. They take charters, etc. 80,000 people in Arrowhead even with Covid-19 aren't going to give Kendall Fuller the virus.

If we are limiting media exposure & no fans interacting with fans, that is a good step for the players but it's more of a public service for big events to temporarily shut down.

Put USA on lockdown for 1 month for big groups, and this thing might be squashed. But you have to mean business. You can't just all lackadaisical and trusting that people will voluntary self quarantine. Most people don't give a shit about people they don't know and will not take the proper precautions. The economy is cyclical. It will go down, and once this is mitigated it will sky rocket once again.

With internet, Amazon Prime and the like. We have never been more equipped in human history to not leave our homes unless for work or emergencies. Anybody that can WFA, should, NOW.

Math challenged or are you really arguing .2% vs. .4%?

Let me help you....4/1000=.004 or .4%
you want to lock down the country for the difference of .2%?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Math challenged?

Let me help you....1000/4=.4

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Come on, who runs that? Hows it updated? Its not the "wuhanvirus" its called the coronavirus. Right wing conservatives are trying to get "wuhanvirus" to trend for some reason.

Interesting how the names of other diseases... Lyme disease (name origin from Lyme, Connecticut) and Ebola (name origin from the Ebola River in Zaire/Democratic Republic of Congo) are attributed to their location of origin but somehow it is non-PC to refer to COVID-19 by its location of origin (China or Wuhan).

[loochy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Math challenged or are you really arguing .2% vs. .4%?

Let me help you....4/1000=.004 or .4%
you want to lock down the country for the difference of .2%?

He said 3 to 4 out of 1000
or .2 out of 1000

[loochy]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Interesting how the names of other diseases... Lyme disease (name origin from Lyme, Connecticut) and Ebola (name origin from the Ebola River in Zaire/Democratic Republic of Congo) are attributed to their location of origin but somehow it is non-PC to refer to COVID-19 by its location of origin (China or Wuhan).

Sure it is

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Donger

you're seriously taking away from my lunch time funning

[TLO]

Originally Posted by BWillie

A male 30-39 years old has a 3 to 4 out of 1,000 chance of dying from this. Not very acceptable.

If it was 0.2 out of 1,000 chance like the flu, probably not too worried and a reasonable risk. We don't want this to be a regular thing like the flu. If it does, hundreds of thousands will die.

There is no need to cancel sporting events. Just play without crowds. Most people think the NCAA or NBA not having crowds is some protection for the players. The players are fine. They don't interact with the fans. They take charters, etc. 80,000 people in Arrowhead even with Covid-19 aren't going to give Kendall Fuller the virus.

If we are limiting media exposure & no fans interacting with fans, that is a good step for the players but it's more of a public service for big events to temporarily shut down.

Put USA on lockdown for 1 month for big groups, and this thing might be squashed. But you have to mean business. You can't just all lackadaisical and trusting that people will voluntary self quarantine. Most people don't give a shit about people they don't know and will not take the proper precautions. The economy is cyclical. It will go down, and once this is mitigated it will sky rocket once again.

With internet, Amazon Prime and the like. We have never been more equipped in human history to not leave our homes unless for work or emergencies. Anybody that can WFA, should, NOW.

Originally Posted by petegz28

Math challenged or are you really arguing .2% vs. .4%?

Let me help you....4/1000=.004 or .4%
you want to lock down the country for the difference of .2%?

Originally Posted by Donger

Can someone put it plain terms what is happening here?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by petegz28

you're seriously taking away from my lunch time funning

I can't wait to see your equation for that!

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by loochy

He said 3 to 4 out of 1000
or .2 out of 1000

what am I missing? .2% of 1000 is 2. Not 3 or 4. Maybe he is saying something I am not getting

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Donger

I can't wait to see your equation for that!

Meh, i typoed and edited...have your fun for a few