***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

If only that was true. You would have to go to some work to disable the airbags.

Huh? Do you mean like turning a key switch to the off position? That is not work or hard.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Do you see the name of this thread?
Keep your politics out of it. If that means you cannot post an article then find a different article. This has been talked about ad nauseam.

Not a political post. This is a major development when an upcoming change in national vaccine strategy is being considered at the White House.

[TLO]

Real-world data out of Italy (ISS) on overall vaccine effectiveness (both doses) shows:

•Symptomatic Infection: 88% [87.9-88.4%]
•Hospitalization: 95% [94.6-95.2%]
•ICU Admission: 97% [96.5-98.0%]
•Death: 96% [95.6-96.5%]

Delta (B.1.617.2) makes up ~60% of Italy’s cases.

— Chise �������� (@sailorrooscout) July 24, 2021

[Swanman]

Originally Posted by stevieray

Feel better?



It's funny watching you attach labels and motives for me.



Powerball numbers?



Do you do this to people in real life too, or just on the internet hiding behind your computer?

You are a self-righteous shithead and I would tell that to your face and on the internet.

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[Swanman]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Your friends and family are more likely to be taken ill by covid because you're not vaccinated.



You may feel like the risk is negligible (and that's entirely reasonable), but please clearly explain how the above statement is a false narrative.

It's a false narrative because it goes against his anti-vax stance.

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[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Not a political post. This is a major development when an upcoming change in national vaccine strategy is being considered at the White House.

When you are mentioning the president and the white house, it is political.

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[wazu]

Originally Posted by TLO

Real-world data out of Italy (ISS) on overall vaccine effectiveness (both doses) shows:

•Symptomatic Infection: 88% [87.9-88.4%]
•Hospitalization: 95% [94.6-95.2%]
•ICU Admission: 97% [96.5-98.0%]
•Death: 96% [95.6-96.5%]

Delta (B.1.617.2) makes up ~60% of Italy’s cases.

— Chise �������� (@sailorrooscout) July 24, 2021

WTF does this even mean? 95% of people who are vaccinated are hospitalized with infection?

[O.city]

Percent effectiveness against severe disease when compared to unvaccinated. If I’m remembering correctly.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by Swanman

You are a self-righteous shithead and I would tell that to your face and on the internet.

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Sure you would, right after you post your pic!

That said, your post reads like projection.

Parent your children, instead of adults.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by Swanman

It's a false narrative because it goes against his anti-vax stance.

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there you again, ascribing labels.

seems self righteous

[NotDonger]

Vaccination prevented ~75% of hospitalizations in England's Delta wave, as determined by modelinghttps://t.co/EWtgB2Vjgx @FT @mroliverbarnes @jburnmurdoch
"@PHE_UK estimates...vaccines being used in the UK are between 91 and 97 per cent effective in preventing hospitalisation." pic.twitter.com/ZUz0Xuaa6f

— Eric Topol (@EricTopol) July 24, 2021

[wazu]

Originally Posted by O.city

Percent effectiveness against severe disease when compared to unvaccinated. If I’m remembering correctly.

So it's 96% effective for people who get vaccinated and then die of COVID anyway?

[NotDonger]

Originally Posted by wazu

WTF does this even mean? 95% of people who are vaccinated are hospitalized with infection?

I believe that's efficacy against among the fully vaccinated.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by NotDonger

I believe that's efficacy against among the fully vaccinated.

So 96% of people who were fully vaccinated died of COVID? Or is it the much better, but still absolutely horrible number of 4%?

[NotDonger]

Originally Posted by wazu

So 96% of people who were fully vaccinated died of COVID? Or is it the much better, but still absolutely horrible number of 4%?

The latter, more or less.

Singapore is interesting. There have been reports that 75% of their cases are among the vaccinated, but there's a catch.

https://www.thejakartapost.com/paper...singapore.html

Of Singapore's 1,096 locally transmitted infections in the last 28 days, 484, or about 44 percent, were in fully vaccinated people, while 30 percent were partially vaccinated and just over 25 percent were unvaccinated, Thursday's data showed.

Plus, Singapore is one of the most highly vaccinated countries, so it makes sense that they are seeing a lot of breakthrough cases. I don't know which vaccines they are using, though.