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Because Martin was exactly what the Norm Stans THOUGHT they were getting in Anderson. And the ceiling was still mediocrity. They got two bites at the apple. They had two chances to re-build the Norm years. One of them they could've passed off as simply being blinded by program loyalty. "Well it didn't work THIS time, but it still will!". The second one, however, got them exactly what Norm Ball will give you in modern college basketball. So now we never have to listen to them again. We've finally closed the book on that era, IMO. |
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Aidan Shaw looked like a real monster last night. He's gotten stronger, the offensive game has expanded a little bit, and his length and athleticism are such weapons defensively.
Bates and Grill also have majorly upgraded the athleticism on the wing. Fun team, and I'm looking forward to this year. |
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Even Martin may have had some success in this environment. But ultimately Martin simply didn't recruit for athleticism. He wanted to build ground and pound teams. Offensive cohesion and athleticism were an afterthought. That said, my expectations for this year's squad are...muted. I'm not seeing much to really get excited about just yet. This is still a squad that's going to need a lot from someone like Nick Honor and Noah Carter. Can Caleb Grill be a big time threat from outside? Because we'll need that as well. Will East step forward? Shaw? Is Vanover a Power 5 player? Brown seems more like a role player. Pierce and Robinson aren't exactly turnkey in their own right. This just feels like a gap year. I'd like to see them make the tournament to get some of those young players some experience as a springboard, but it's not really an expectation for me. |
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Honor looked about the same except for jacking up shots almost every time he touched the ball. Looks like a 40 year old playing with college kids Bates looks good, very athletic. Could end up being our best player East and Shaw both seem to have taken fairly substantial steps forward Carralero made some great passes, seems to be a good defender, and plays with a lot of energy Anthony Robinson will end up being a very solid player for us. Gates has praised his leadership qualities, unusual for a freshman Grill is more athletic than I expected Got somewhat distracted by the terrible play calling by Nathanial Hackett in the football game (how on earth does he not run more quick slants, screens, and quick tosses to Hall outside the Tackle box to take pressure off of terrible Zach Wilson?? Chargers were just pinning their ears back on the pass rush), but overall obviously looks like we don't have the top-end talent that we had last year. This team could end up being much deeper and being a much better rebounding team. Could be a tournament team, don't see much beyond just making it, which I kind of expected considering the talent we lost. Last edited by JohnnyHammersticks; 11-07-2023 at 10:28 AM.. |
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Zo had some shitty luck as well with the Porters being Brodie Croyle's in college. E. J. Liddell was the big nut kick. That was going to be a big time 4 year get - only to lose him to Ohio State because he was a fat kid growing up who loved Orlando Pace. I wonder how the new NIL laws would have helped with Love and Fletcher recruiting. Courtney Ramey's dad is a major AAU **** so that didn't surprise me.
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