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Old 01-03-2020, 08:27 PM   #2
Mennonite Mennonite is offline
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That Stanford degree that made him so smart still didn’t teach Sherman the difference between “your” and “you’re,” apparently.
Clearly he's better at negotiating contracts than he is at negotiating contractions.
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Old 01-03-2020, 09:45 PM   #3
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Clearly he's better at negotiating contracts than he is at negotiating contractions.
Underappreciated post.
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Old 01-03-2020, 08:24 PM   #5
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Old 01-03-2020, 08:41 PM   #6
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The thing that Joe Thomas has wrong is that Sherman might be 10th highest cb but he got all the money. Probably higher when you take out the other db's agent fees.

But I still dont think you can retroactively call this a good contract just because he hit all his incentives. It was a gamble contract that paid off.
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Old 01-03-2020, 08:54 PM   #7
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The thing that Joe Thomas has wrong is that Sherman might be 10th highest cb but he got all the money. Probably higher when you take out the other db's agent fees.

But I still dont think you can retroactively call this a good contract just because he hit all his incentives. It was a gamble contract that paid off.
He signed a deal for 7 million guarantee that he could be cut for 2 million dead cap room by S2. it's pretty awful even with him hitting some of the incentives. For a player of his stature at least. Even as a 29yo CB, he wasn't getting a monster 4-5 year deal but he shouldve been better protected for an Alex Smith type situation.
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Old 01-03-2020, 10:29 PM   #8
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I guess it's like representing yourself in court or selling your house without a realtor...it's a risk, but if you know what you are doing, I suppose it could work out. It boils down to him having confidence in himself and his knowlege. Given his GPA at Stanford, I'd say he's safe in the brains department.

Good for him. But it doesn't mean everyone in the NFL should dump their agents. By a long shot.
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Old 01-04-2020, 12:18 AM   #9
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I guess it's like representing yourself in court or selling your house without a realtor...it's a risk, but if you know what you are doing, I suppose it could work out. It boils down to him having confidence in himself and his knowlege. Given his GPA at Stanford, I'd say he's safe in the brains department.

Good for him. But it doesn't mean everyone in the NFL should dump their agents. By a long shot.
You an agent? Cuz that last paragraph sounds like something an agent would say.
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Old 01-04-2020, 05:04 AM   #10
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You an agent? Cuz that last paragraph sounds like something an agent would say.
Wow. Total Dumbassery in this thread also... Didnt even look at who said it until after I read it. When I saw it was you, it made sense.
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Old 01-04-2020, 06:54 AM   #11
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You an agent? Cuz that last paragraph sounds like something an agent would say.
No. I'm being prudent. I have no confidence in my ability to represent myself in court, therefore I would hire a lawyer. Just because some people can do this doesn't mean all people should do this.

The same is true for NFL players and agents. Some can probably handle it themselves, but that doesn't mean everyone can or should...
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Old 01-03-2020, 10:51 PM   #12
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Good for him. I've never understood the need for every player to have an agent. They take a pretty big chunk from what I've heard. Just get an attorney to help with the contract language...but why cant the player do the terms and negotiating.
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Old 01-03-2020, 11:02 PM   #13
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Good for him. I've never understood the need for every player to have an agent. They take a pretty big chunk from what I've heard. Just get an attorney to help with the contract language...but why cant the player do the terms and negotiating.
Some (a lot) of football players are borderline reeruned and drool when they talk.
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Old 01-03-2020, 11:19 PM   #14
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I have watched as my agents got me more money than I thought was possible. I would have quit negotiating long before we reached the ceiling. Good for him, but There is no reason Sherman couldn’t just tell his reps that he wants no incentives in the contract, period. And he can have his lawyer oversee it before he signs.
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Old 01-04-2020, 12:10 AM   #15
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Having a first time agent worked so well for Ricky Williams. Sherman is an extremely intelligent dude, though...to take away what he set up for himself is kind of like being a first time agent negotiating against an NFL team for a multi-year player contract.
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