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Old 11-23-2021, 12:45 PM  
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*** 2022 Mock Draft Megathread ***

Got a mock? Pop it in this thread. Include a picture if you want. Explain your reasoning if you want. Talk about your crushes... if you want.

See a good "pro" mock? Link it up in here and I'll add it to the OP.

Duncan's latest mock

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The Draft Network This mock seems to be the most accurate site right now, so I go with this one. I don't pay for it, so no trades here. The plan is for this to be my last mock. I'm going to do it differently, though. I'm running 3 scenarios, and eschewing the 7th round picks, which I would use on a big swings on athleticism and potential. Lotto tickets. James Houston IV is one of them. Note: I used PFF to simulate the trade action, then manually backed up in the 2 "trade" drafts to make selections. Laborious, but gives you best of both worlds, IMO. I think PFF's trade tool is the best, but its board is whack.

Draft slot: 29

Scenario 1: The Chiefs sit pat with their picks and don't make any moves at all. Seems the least likely, but hey...
1.29 | George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue.
1.30 | Boye Mafe, DE, Minnesota.
2.50 | George Pickens, WR, Georgia.
2.62 | Travis Jones, DT, UConn.
3.94 | Zyon McCollum, CB, Sam Houston State.
3.103(Comp for Poles) | Troy Andersen, LB, Montana State.
4.121 | Coby Bryant, CB, Cincinnati.
4.135 | Velus Jones, Jr., Tennessee

Scenario 1 Debrief:
So, sitting and waiting to see what comes to me was pretty successful here. The Chiefs FLOOD the defensive line with reinforcements, including at least 1 ready-made starter and two guys who should - at minimum - be in 50/50 rotations at their spots by year end. The Chiefs still get a big outside WR with tantalizing potential. They add some crazy athletic small-school guys, and a mid-round corner who just fits in the system, and a dynamo return man who might be more at WR.

This looks pretty good. Though I have a hard time believing Karlaftis just falls to 29...

Scenario 2: The Chiefs get aggressive and trade up. But for what? In this case, let's go wide receiver. In this run, Kansas City trades picks 29, 62, and a 2023 3rd to Houston for pick 13 and a 2023 4th, because they ARE as obsessed with a WR as people expect and are aggressive to go get him when the board falls right. They then trade BACK from 30 to 35 with the Jets, also including pick 94 in order to get 69 back. Then, last but not least, KC gets aggressive one more time and moves 103 and 121 for 85 from New England, leaving the Chiefs with 6 picks in the first four rounds.
1.13 | Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama.
2.35 | Cam Thomas, DE, San Diego State.
2.50 | Jalen Pitre, S, Baylor.
3.69 | Zachary Carter, DT, Florida.
3.85 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
4.135 | Jaylen Watson, CB, Washington State

Scenario 2 Debrief:
I'm not saying KC should do this or even that I think they will (more on that in a few minutes). I'm just saying, man, what will it look like if the Chiefs get aggressive a few times AND are doing the big move for a WR? In this scenario, KC obviously believes Williams is a game-changer at the NFL level and is taking a small 2022 hit to make 2023+ better. The defensive line still gets reinforced, but the reinforcements are all a shade worse than the sit-pat draft option. If you like Kingsley Enagbare or Josh PAscal more than Thomas, I get it and wouldn't quibble at one of those guys instead. Logan Hall, too. Pitre is such a screaming perfect fit for KC's D. Carter is a great physical talent you can dream about coaching up. Williams' utility is known and gives them a true RE option to pair against their higher-drafted bigger guy. Watson is a developmental corner.

I don't love it. I think Pitre makes the secondary a lot better and makes it easier to move on from Thornhill after 22. They have improved the defensive rotation, though one of the DEs would need to outperform expectations in Year 1 to get it to the same level as Scenario 1. In all, giving up the 2 extra selections in the top 4 rounds hurts the depth you can build, but I think it's more like what KC will do.

Scenario 3: Same movements as #2
1.13 | Jermaine Johnson II, DE, Florida State.
2.35 | Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State.
2.50 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
3.69 | Bryan Cook, S, Cincinnati.
3.85 | Martin Emerson, CB, Miss. State.
4.135 | Braxton Jones, T, Southern Utah

Scenario 3 Debrief:
This is the type of situation where I see KC paying the price to move up... if Johnson falls this far, I'd be shocked if KC isn't aggressively moving up. With this run, I take a risky but high upside WR in Watson (but you could sub in Pickens or Jahan Dotson or Tolbert or Metchie or Skyy Moore or really any of those tier 2 guys here if you prefer). The secondary reinforcements aren't flashy but are good fits.

In this one, I think the plan has to become adding either another safety or corner in free agency before the season. Ideally, it's someone who can handle the slot and let Sneed thriver on the outside. The DL gets a major boost and some potential star power in Johnson and Williams, and the OL gets another T option and potential long-term starter to develop.

Having completed the exercise and looking at the scenariors, I like the first one the most. But it really does come down to how the board breaks.

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Old 03-02-2022, 08:06 PM   #211
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What about WR Kyle Phillips from UCLA?

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Old 03-02-2022, 08:34 PM   #212
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Thank you, sir. Still like him in the later rounds.
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Old 03-02-2022, 10:39 PM   #213
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If we sign a Allen Robinson/Godwin and draft safety or DE with 1st pick I wouldn't mind grabbing Shakir later.

At first I thought he was a good vertical 2 but he looks better the more I watch.


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Old 03-03-2022, 10:23 AM   #214
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holy smokes, beat this draft!

Traded down to #37 with Houston, picking up #80.

KC
37.
Perrion Winfrey
DT Oklahoma-basically Chris Jones. Our interior pass rush would be otherwordly.


KC
62.
Boye Mafe
EDGE Minnesota-athletic and productive prototype Edge
KC

80.
Romeo Doubs
WR Nevada-explosive WR with prototype size and speed, restocking the cupboard.

KC
94.
Rachaad White
RB Arizona State-a true 3 down back, excellent receiver, Veach prototype size, speed, and contact balance.
KC

103.
Wan'Dale Robinson
WR Kentucky-dude just gets open and makes plays. He reminds me of Antonio Brown without all the creepy rapey pscyho shit. WR spots should be good to go for the next several years.

KC
134.
Tariq Castro-Fields
CB Penn State-freakishly long arms with good overall size and speed. An ideal Press-man corner for Spags.
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Old 03-03-2022, 10:38 AM   #215
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Today's run... What you're about to see here is not happening lol. Ojabo fell to 20 and then I played around with moving down at various points.


KC
30.

David Ojabo
EDGE Michigan
KC
69.

Kyler Gordon
CB Washington
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KC
103.

Justyn Ross
WR Clemson
KC
104.

George Pickens
WR Georgia
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KC
116.

Haskell Garrett
DT Ohio State
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KC
134.

Jalyn Armour-Davis
CB Alabama
KC
143.

Cole Turner
TE Nevada
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KC
190.

Neil Farrell Jr.
DT LSU
KC
210.

Joshua Williams
S Fayetteville State
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KC
231.

Pierre Strong Jr.
RB South Dakota State
KC
241.

Jeremiah Gemmel
LB North Carolina
KC
249.

Reed Blankenship
S Middle Tennessee
KC
258.

David Anenih
EDGE Houston
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Old 03-03-2022, 10:40 AM   #216
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Old 03-03-2022, 10:45 AM   #217
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I didn't do a trade down and ended up with Ojabo, Pitre, and Justyn Ross, in that order.

I really think we're going to see a bunch of edge options at 30. Thomas, Walker, London, and Ojabo were all on the board in the three I ran.
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Old 03-03-2022, 10:53 AM   #218
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Finally got a mock where most of the good edge players were off the board and guess who was sitting there at 30?

Burks.

I ended up getting Burks in the first and Wyatt in the 2nd.

Veach would almost have to purposefully sabotage the front end of this draft to fail.
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Old 03-03-2022, 11:02 AM   #219
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Finally got a mock where most of the good edge players were off the board and guess who was sitting there at 30?

Burks.

I ended up getting Burks in the first and Wyatt in the 2nd.

Veach would almost have to purposefully sabotage the front end of this draft to fail.
Yep. There always seems to be a player or two at the end that I would absolutely take. So much so that I hesitate to trade down at that point.
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Old 03-03-2022, 11:09 AM   #220
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I think Walker's going to 'beat' the machines as well.

By the time the draft rolls around I think he could be a top 10 selection. Meanwhile I feel like Karlaftis may be the one to start sliding.
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Old 03-03-2022, 11:10 AM   #221
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Finally got a mock where most of the good edge players were off the board and guess who was sitting there at 30?

Burks.

I ended up getting Burks in the first and Wyatt in the 2nd.

Veach would almost have to purposefully sabotage the front end of this draft to fail.
Agreed.

This draft lines up so damn perfectly for us. It's even a great year to have that comp 3rd.

This should be another HR draft for Bert.
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Old 03-03-2022, 11:11 AM   #222
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I think Walker's going to 'beat' the machines as well.

By the time the draft rolls around I think he could be a top 10 selection. Meanwhile I feel like Karlaftis may be the one to start sliding.
Walker is a guy that I would like to see rise. As much as I like his versatility, he's still not a very accomplished pass rusher. And we really need pass rush impact.
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Old 03-03-2022, 11:38 AM   #223
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Walker is a guy that I would like to see rise. As much as I like his versatility, he's still not a very accomplished pass rusher. And we really need pass rush impact.
But as an SDE who slides inside on pass-rush downs, he could provide a hell of an anchor over there and we can find a more specialized pass-rusher to play the weak side. Merely being long, fast and strong like bull would attract attention and make things a lot easier for Jones and the complementary pass rusher on the weak side of the line.
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Old 03-03-2022, 12:27 PM   #224
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Finally got a mock where most of the good edge players were off the board and guess who was sitting there at 30?

Burks.

I ended up getting Burks in the first and Wyatt in the 2nd.

Veach would almost have to purposefully sabotage the front end of this draft to fail.
If we solidified the DE position better before the draft in FA, I think we would jump all over Burks in the 1 hole if he fell due to a run on DE’s.
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Old 03-03-2022, 12:37 PM   #225
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But as an SDE who slides inside on pass-rush downs, he could provide a hell of an anchor over there and we can find a more specialized pass-rusher to play the weak side. Merely being long, fast and strong like bull would attract attention and make things a lot easier for Jones and the complementary pass rusher on the weak side of the line.
I'm not saying we couldn't use him. I just think there would be better fits available, especially if Walker shoots up the board and moves some guys down.
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