Joker - Warner Bros. movie

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by DeepPurple

If there is a sequel, I would like to see it tied into the Joker by Heath Ledger. Possibly a 20 year descent into crime related madness and the conclusion would be the bank heist that was the opening to Dark Knight.

That wouldnt work. Because Joaquin Phoenix's joker is mid 40s. So Ledgers Joker would be in his mid 60s???

[DeepPurple]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

That wouldnt work. Because Joaquin Phoenix's joker is mid 40s. So Ledgers Joker would be in his mid 60s???

Originally Posted by Superturtle

So how would he go on a 20 year crime spree and yet he's still a relative unknown in both Batman Begins and The Dark Knight.

Problems, Problems, Problems. That's what a screenwriter's job is, to solve continuity. Heath Ledger wore heavy makeup and was never seen without it, age is not something viewers would be hung up on. As long as he is nimble, quick and mean, it will work. I could write super hero flicks.



Twenty year crime spree doesn't mean he pulling bank heists every week, it could be penny-ante non-sense, he's going mad, what does the level of the crime matter. Eventually he regains his senses and forms a gang, then comes the banks and the mob hits. Of course, he has no loyalty to his gang because he hires all losers. Anyone that gets in his way, hence the bank heist at the opening of Dark Knight and the killing of his gang members.

[Sassy Squatch]

So how would he go on a 20 year crime spree and yet he's still a relative unknown in both Batman Begins and The Dark Knight.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

So how would he go on a 20 year crime spree and yet he's still a relative unknown in both Batman Begins and The Dark Knight.

In the style of Charles Manson he becomes a sort of insane violent guru. He moves from group to group inciting chaos and inspiring others to do the dirty work. The state and then federal authorities get involved but they can never quite pin him down, as he becomes well known among international terrorist organizations and organized crime families. Those groups use him to further their agendas and he goes along with it because he's just in it for the ride and doesn't really care what happens.

One of the threads in the sequel could be conspiracy theory talk show hosts bringing guests on who claim to know of the existence of 'The Joker' only to be laughed at and dismissed by the vast majority. Leading to a scene where Pheonix shows up as a guest and purposefully kills any serious consideration of his existence by pretending to be caught out as a fraud.


At some point the authorities get too close and he instructs those closest to him to go on divergent sets of missions to muddy the waters. He tells them that as long as they remain active then 'The Joker' will never die. Meanwhile he goes an an extremely violent suicide mission that he frames on a lead investigator leaving the authorities to wonder if 'The Joker' was one of their own or if he ever really existed at all.




Ledger's Joker is a member of one of those cells started by Pheonix's closest followers.