Devin White, not a fan of Chiefs' coaching

[JakeF]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...rb-in-round-1/

A message for Chiefs about Super Bowl game plan for Patrick Mahomes, offense

One word: ouch, White didn't hold back

By Patrik Walker
1 hr ago

It goes without saying the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are enjoying not only the victory itself in Super Bowl 2021 over Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs, but most certainly the spoils thereof. Take one look at linebacker Devin White and you'll immediately find evidence to that fact, having now gone from taking his Dream lap around Raymond James Stadium on his horse to grabbing a scalpel and surgically dissecting the Chiefs for a second time -- this time verbally. Never one to mince words, the All-Pro is fed up with hearing how Kansas City was at a disadvantage because they were without starting tackles Eric Fisher and Mitchell Schwartz, both sidelined by injury.

To put it plainly, White wants everyone to can those excuses, tie them to a rocket and fire them into the sun, as he so eloquently made clear in a recent interview with FS1's "Undisputed." The 23-year-old laid into head coach Andy Reid, offensive coordinator Eric Bieniemy and anyone else who had a hand in scheming protection for Mahomes.

"We knew that they was gonna be a cocky team, which they have every right to be," White said, via NFL reporter Dov Kleiman. "They [were] the No. 1 offense in the entire National Football League. But the thing is, we knew they couldn't block us. We knew that our front four was gonna dominate them.

"So they did us a favor. They played right into our hands."

How so? Well, White points out the Chiefs' refusal to send any help to the edges.

"We weren't gonna be that cocky team like, 'Hey, we're gonna play them in Cover One, we're gonna shut them down,'" he said. "Our best guys matched up on their best guys. We was gonna make it be a team, collective win on defense, and that's what we did. So at the end of the day they shouldn't even talk about not having their offensive tackles when they didn't even help them.

"They put them on islands by themselves with the best pass rushers in the game. So that's their own fault."

In looking at the film, White is telling the truth. Kansas City's plan to pretend their backups could play iso against the vicious defensive front of the Bucs was doomed from the start. Mahomes was under siege most of the evening and when he finally did break free at times, it was for naught, thanks to drops by franchise targets like tight end Travis Kelce and wide receiver Tyreek Hill -- with running back Darrel Williams getting in on the drop action as well. Mahomes was sacked three times and bullied much, much more than that would indicate, having also been hit a combined nine times in the game.

Shaq Barrett alone owned one of those sacks and four of those QB hits, with Ndamukong Suh and others also joining the party to keep Mahomes out of the end zone both on the ground and in the air. He'd finish with 23 incompletions and two interceptions on the day, and while he was able to muster 270 passing yards, White says they shouldn't go writing home to mother about that number.

"They started gaining yards when we were already up 21 points," said White."We already gave our little brothers the controllers, and they just started giving up little BS yards at the end. I know everybody praising Travis Kelce [for having] 133 yards, but a lot of that came at the end of the game when it was already over -- we're sitting back in zone and playing soft. The same for Tyreek Hill.

"... They gave him a lot of yards and it made it look like he had a decent day. We know what went on, there was a lot of toe tagging out there."

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Whatever

Hope we see them next year

[Wisconsin_Chief]

He's 100% correct on the first subject. It was absurd that Reid refused to adjust when it was clear our tackles couldn't stop their edge rushers.

The second matter, he's full of crap. The only reason Kelce was remotely slowed down is because they were allowed to god damn moleste him all game.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

He's 100% correct on the first subject. It was absurd that Reid refused to adjust when it was clear our tackles couldn't stop their edge rushers.

Sir.

Andy Reid is an offensive genius and a sure-lock HOF head coach.

If he refused to adjust (which is supposedly something he's THE BEST at), he must've had a good reason.

Like he was told not to or something...

This isn't the first time Andy Reid has screwed the pooch by making decisions that 5th grader learns not to make while playing Madden. Situational football, down to ONE starting Olineman, Tackles who aren't actually tackles, and I'm sitting here like "you know if you kept the backs in to help block, maybe Mahomes won't have a bunch of Tampa Gay dick in his ass..."

Reid and Beniemy played into Bowles' hands because that's what they were supposed to do. That's what the script said...

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

The second matter, he's full of crap. The only reason Kelce was remotely slowed down is because they were allowed to god damn moleste him all game.

Their DBs molested all of our WRs/TEs all game without flags, their Oline completely mugged our Dline, again without flags...funny how he wouldn't mention that...or how Suh punched Mahomes in the face without a penalty or Brady pushing his finger in Honey Badger's face without penalty...

So, yeah...

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Sir.

Andy Reid is an offensive genius and a sure-lock HOF head coach.

If he refused to adjust (which is supposedly something he's THE BEST at), he must've had a good reason.

Like he was told not to or something...

This isn't the first time Andy Reid has screwed the pooch by making decisions that 5th grader learns not to make while playing Madden. Situational football, down to ONE starting Olineman, Tackles who aren't actually tackles, and I'm sitting here like "you know if you kept the backs in to help block, maybe Mahomes won't have a bunch of Tampa Gay dick in his ass..."

Reid and Beniemy played into Bowles' hands because that's what they were supposed to do. That's what the script said...


Their DBs molested all of our WRs/TEs all game without flags, their Oline completely mugged our Dline, again without flags...funny how he wouldn't mention that...or how Suh punched Mahomes in the face without a penalty or Brady pushing his finger in Honey Badger's face without penalty...

So, yeah...

I don't think it was cockiness. But it did feel like Reid was distracted. The surprise was we didn't do much in the way of adjustment. But you're right, sometimes you just can't scheme around gaps if you're OL is flat out outmatched. It reminds me of the time vermeil used to scheme a brilliant first quarter offense with Jordan black which worked until the defense adjusted. While Im surprised we didn't stretch horizontally with jet sweeps etc... We did try to run and wr screen with almost no success.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't think it was cockiness. But it did feel like Reid was distracted. The surprise was we didn't do much in the way of adjustment. But you're right, sometimes you just can't scheme around gaps if you're OL is flat out outmatched. It reminds me of the time vermeil used to scheme a brilliant first quarter offense with Jordan black which worked until the defense adjusted. While Im surprised we didn't stretch horizontally with jet sweeps etc... We did try to run and wr screen with almost no success.

CEH had 9 carries for 64 yards.

I mean, the only reason the run was "no success" was because they gave up on it. Which is unforgivable, considering that it was really the only thing even remotely working - the screens were dogshit, because the line was literally not setting the screens correctly. It was horrid. At some point, you bring Sherman in to help lead block on runs and pass block on PMIIs blindside.

It was ****ing asinine, but Andy Reid is one of the greatest ever, so maybe he thought that his offensive line guru prowess would compensate for lack of chemistry, lack of continuity, lack of familiarity, and lack of talent...but it became obvious early on that the Oline was simply overwhelmed and overmatched...and you have Reid and EB, this pair of ****ing football geniuses who know more about football than I ever ****ing will...and they don't make a single adjustment all game.


**** you if don't think that sounds fishy as ****.

[Coochie liquor]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I don't think it was cockiness. But it did feel like Reid was distracted. The surprise was we didn't do much in the way of adjustment. But you're right, sometimes you just can't scheme around gaps if you're OL is flat out outmatched. It reminds me of the time vermeil used to scheme a brilliant first quarter offense with Jordan black which worked until the defense adjusted. While Im surprised we didn't stretch horizontally with jet sweeps etc... We did try to run and wr screen with almost no success.

Clyde was averaging over 7 a carry, Mahomes was averaging over 6. Running was working, Andy just went Reidtard, and didn’t keep it up .

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Sir.

Andy Reid is an offensive genius and a sure-lock HOF head coach.

If he refused to adjust (which is supposedly something he's THE BEST at), he must've had a good reason.

Like he was told not to or something...

This isn't the first time Andy Reid has screwed the pooch by making decisions that 5th grader learns not to make while playing Madden. Situational football, down to ONE starting Olineman, Tackles who aren't actually tackles, and I'm sitting here like "you know if you kept the backs in to help block, maybe Mahomes won't have a bunch of Tampa Gay dick in his ass..."

Reid and Beniemy played into Bowles' hands because that's what they were supposed to do. That's what the script said...


Their DBs molested all of our WRs/TEs all game without flags, their Oline completely mugged our Dline, again without flags...funny how he wouldn't mention that...or how Suh punched Mahomes in the face without a penalty or Brady pushing his finger in Honey Badger's face without penalty...

So, yeah...

Hey rabble, how are you doing? I hope all is well in your world.

I don't agree with you or anyone else's NFL rigged conspiracy theories, but I don't wish to spend countless minutes and posts arguing about it. I hope when the Chiefs win another Super Bowl you can enjoy it and not let the fact you think the NFL is rigged water down your enjoyment.

[ljmhawk]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Hey rabble, how are you doing? I hope all is well in your world.

I don't agree with you or anyone else's NFL rigged conspiracy theories, but I don't wish to spend countless minutes and posts arguing about it. I hope when the Chiefs win another Super Bowl you can enjoy it and not let the fact you think the NFL is rigged water down your enjoyment.

i agree, this guy saying Reid was told not to try to win is a complete idiot. the chiefs got their ass kicked plain and simple. you can bitch about the refs, bitch about the beat up OL but they lost. it’s over, get over it.

[BlackOp]

Originally Posted by ljmhawk

i agree, this guy saying Reid was told not to try to win is a complete idiot.

Chris Simms said the most "shocking" aspect of the SB, after watching it 3 times, was Reid's game plan.

He said he studied KC all season...and had no idea what they were doing. It wasn't "normal"...

He said it was dumbfounding as they had adapted/evolved their offense earlier in the season and had become truly "multi-faceted".

AR essentially set them up to fail...he was calling long evolving pass plays with a 3rd string o-line. Simms said it played directly into TB's strengths.

Sorry but this is as believable as the time Alex Smith couldn't solve a basic cover 2 for five games....Andy had two weeks to create a gameplan..and is usually unbeatable in that scenario...especially with a Superbowl on the line.

Reid is a NFL company man...if he were instructed to take a dive...he would. Judging by the insane, one-sided officiating...sure looks like this one was predetermined.

All post-season they had been letting teams play with minimal interference...then, out of nowhere, wallop the Chiefs with a record amount of calls...many weren't even fouls.

I've never seen a SB officiated like this...

People think he's this all powerful figure in the NFL...nope...he's a regional branch manager...one of 32. They work under a corporation comprised of owners....who work for those above them.

Is what it is...Falcons took a dive a few years back.

Their reasoning was that being up 2 scores with under 5 minutes...NE out of time outs... wasn't safe enough...so they opted out of running down the clock and taking a FG

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Hey rabble, how are you doing? I hope all is well in your world.enjoyment.

Hey brother, things are pretty damn well. At least we'll have some degrees here tomorrow, not many, but it's something. Lot of working, plus school full-time, so I've been super busy. But hey, progress doesn't come easy, and the work is worth it. My graduation plan at MU has been accepted, and I'll have a BA in Sociology with concentration on Social Behaviors and Family Soc in May of 2022. My girlfriend has her Master's in Special Education- she teaches K-2 autistic kids currently - and is starting her Doctorate in Education this August, and she's convinced me to get my masters...so by 2023, I'll be able to get a little rest and "just go to work" lol.

Hope all is well with you and the Missus.

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

I don't agree with you or anyone else's NFL rigged conspiracy theories, but I don't wish to spend countless minutes and posts arguing about it. I hope when the Chiefs win another Super Bowl you can enjoy it and not let the fact you think the NFL is rigged water down your enjoyment.

I know, but damn, all those penalties in the first half...but hey, at the end of the day, we didn't block and we didn't catch balls that bounced off helmets and we didn't stop them from scoring more points than us. That's what losing the Super Bowl feels like 😳 and it wasn't pretty...but Brady went to Tampa, and they were playing in their home stadium...so, "home cooking" or not, we played like shit, the coaches coached like shit...it hurt to watch.

But looking at the last 3 years...Mahomes League MVP, HFA + AFC Championship Game at Arrowhead in 2018...Super Bowl victory in 2019...2nd straight Super Bowl appearance...we're in good shape.

I'm just pissed at the NFL, throwing that BS flag on Dee Ford (I know he was offsides...BUT HE'D BEEN BASICALLY LINING UP THAT WAY ALL GAME) and getting that BS Rams/Pat's farce...then this year, flagging the shit out of us all first half and basically gifting TB 14 points (well, Andy helped gift them 7, but anyway...)

If Patrick Mahomes II had become the first QB in NFL history to :
1. Win the league MVP as first year starter
2. Win 3 straight Super Bowls
3. And have those 3 Super Bowls in 3 years vs Brady's 5 in 20 or whatever it would've been at that point, then there would all the sudden be no possible debate on who the GOAT really is, and...well...the NFL has way too much invested in Tom's territory "greatness" for all that noise. They want a long term "will he catch Brady" type thing, but Mahomes is Jordan to Brady's Russell...because Brady MIGHT finish with more rings (cheating bastard), but Mahomes refines the position and has absolutely defined what "greatness" at the QB position looks like.

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Hey brother, things are pretty damn well. At least we'll have some degrees here tomorrow, not many, but it's something. Lot of working, plus school full-time, so I've been super busy. But hey, progress doesn't come easy, and the work is worth it. My graduation plan at MU has been accepted, and I'll have a BA in Sociology with concentration on Social Behaviors and Family Soc in May of 2022. My girlfriend has her Master's in Special Education- she teaches K-2 autistic kids currently - and is starting her Doctorate in Education this August, and she's convinced me to get my masters...so by 2023, I'll be able to get a little rest and "just go to work" lol.

Man, I thought I was busy with working 60-70 hour weeks. You sound like you never get the chance to sit down and relax. Sounds like you have your eye on the prize though.

Hope you still find time to play a little music. 2023 will be here before you know it. Keep grinding.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

He's 100% correct on the first subject. It was absurd that Reid refused to adjust when it was clear our tackles couldn't stop their edge rushers.

The second matter, he's full of crap. The only reason Kelce was remotely slowed down is because they were allowed to god damn moleste him all game.

^this^ the def holding and illegal contact that was being called on the Chiefs, wasn't called on the Bucs and it was there if you rewatch the game. This took away Pat's first read and he had little time after... Despite that, if they don't get the two horrendous DPI's before half to give them 7, and the interception negated by a BS call, and we actually catch 2 of the passes that hit our guys in the facemask we probably beat this punk ass...

[scho63]

Tell us something we already don't know and are well aware of.

[DJJasonp]

As others have stated, Reid should have swallowed his pride, and called the game like the first Buffalo game.

That, and F the refs.