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Old 03-01-2024, 09:06 AM  
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Report: NFL tested technology to track 1st downs during games including Super Bowl
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The NFL’s use of technology may finally be used to determine first downs.

Multiple reports out of the NFL Scouting Combine on Thursday noted the league tested technology to track first downs during multiple games this past season, including Super Bowl LVIII between the Kansas City Chiefs and San Francisco 49ers.

While the optical technology is reportedly not ready to be used for the 2024 season, it could very well be implemented when it is.

If approved, one of the more outdated happenings in sports – sideline chain crews being used – would be obsolete. Despite the use of replay technology and more in the NFL, the league continuously uses chain crews.

Considering how vital first downs are during NFL games, it is fair to say everyone would agree taking the human error part out of determining whether a team picked up a new set of downs would be great.

What the technology is exactly remains to be seen, but it is a truth that the NFL has had the ability to track the football during games. It is used for their Next Gen Stats, and the league says a tracking system is installed at every stadium.

However, the technology is only used for analytics purposes – not to determine downs or anything else in the game.

The technology does not, however, determine when a player is down, whether it be by elbow, knee or any other body part.

Still, players, coaches and everyone involved would likely be open to technology that determines the position of the football instead of going based off an eye test, which can be reviewed by coach’s challenge.

When the technology could possibly be available for use during regular-season games remains to be seen, but it is certainly something to look out for as the league continues to adapt to modern times.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nfl-t...super-bowl.amp
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Old 03-01-2024, 09:42 AM   #16
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It doesn't tell the refs where to spot the ball, only if it is a first down based on where the refs decide to place it.
Which seems like an easy thing they could have done years ago. I'm not all that familiar with what tech they're planning to use here, but it'd be pretty easy to put a laser in the first down marker and turn it on when they need to make a "measurement" rather than taking 2-3 minutes for the chain gang tome out and do their thing.
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Old 03-01-2024, 09:48 AM   #17
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A little microphone that amplifies the "DOINK" sound when it hits the upright would be kind of cool.
- or the whiff sound when a ball sails wide right
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Old 03-01-2024, 09:52 AM   #18
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A small chip inside a soft air filled football cushioning it should not be difficult at all. I've had fitbits, earbuds, and other various electronics take far more of a beating falling multiple stories, bouncing off concrete and working just fine. I imagine the biggest force a chip inside a football would face would be when the kicker clanks an extra point off the upright.

Too bad Mythbusters is not still around to look into the matter.
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Old 03-01-2024, 10:08 AM   #19
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It doesn't tell the refs where to spot the ball, only if it is a first down based on where the refs decide to place it.
Can we put a chip in them?
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Old 03-01-2024, 10:17 AM   #20
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It doesn't tell the refs where to spot the ball, only if it is a first down based on where the refs decide to place it.
That's even more reeruned. A "technical innovation" that will pinpoint exactly where the 70 year old geriatric referees determine the ball should be placed. If you're going to use tech do it properly and take out the refs being ****ing blind and stupid factor instead.
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Old 03-01-2024, 10:22 AM   #21
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That's even more reeruned. A "technical innovation" that will pinpoint exactly where the 70 year old geriatric referees determine the ball should be placed. If you're going to use tech do it properly and take out the refs being ****ing blind and stupid factor instead.
I have yet to hear how anyone thinks a chip in a ball can tell you when (or if) a player's knee was down.
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That's even more reeruned. A "technical innovation" that will pinpoint exactly where the 70 year old geriatric referees determine the ball should be placed. If you're going to use tech do it properly and take out the refs being ****ing blind and stupid factor instead.
I think its kinda like did the chip in the ball pass the invisible first down line - that way there is no doubt about a first down and we don't have to wait for the chain gang to make a measurement. I'm sure this is the first step in what is sure to be more accurate spotting of the ball. We just aren't quite there yet with tech to be able to determine "when" the ball is down. Which is actually interesting to think about in this scenario with a runner being down but having the ball cross the 1st down plane.
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Old 03-01-2024, 10:25 AM   #23
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I have yet to hear how anyone thinks a chip in a ball can tell you when (or if) a player's knee was down.
It'll eventually done by the 3d imaging and mapping shit you have in "soccer" for the automated offsides.
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It doesn't tell the refs where to spot the ball, only if it is a first down based on where the refs decide to place it.
that seems kinda....pointless?

like how many first downs are taken away or given because the chains were put in the wrong place?
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I have yet to hear how anyone thinks a chip in a ball can tell you when (or if) a player's knee was down.
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Or they'll make everyone wear suits with sensors. This is the chiefs game day gear in 2027, as modeled by CEH.

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I thought about a sci-fi story that featured football that was reffed by advanced technology. The players had suits with sensors all over them that could determine who is in possession of the ball, illegal contact, forward progress... and so on. The technology probably isn't that far away but the cost, I imagine, would be very high.
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What good does a sensor in the ball do if the guys knee is down and then the ball crosses the line?
Put sensors in the players knees...
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