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Old 10-25-2020, 08:17 PM   #2
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It was booth of them. I think Brady could have won 1-2 rings with any other decent franchise.

I can't say the same thing about Belicheck because the QB is so important. But for them to win 6, it isn't one or the other, but the combination of both (along with cheating!).
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Old 10-25-2020, 08:20 PM   #3
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It was booth of them. I think Brady could have won 1-2 rings with any other decent franchise.

I can't say the same thing about Belicheck because the QB is so important. But for them to win 6, it isn't one or the other, but the combination of both (along with cheating!).
Neither wins six without the other one.
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Old 10-25-2020, 08:18 PM   #4
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Nah. Bill>Brady.

All you have to do is imagine Brady going to the Jets/Browns/Bucs or whoever when he was drafted and you have your answer. Bill created the culture and the lockerroom in NE, brought in a 7th round gangly game-manager QB and forged him into a good QB. Hell, he did the same thing with Bledsoe before Brady.
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Old 10-25-2020, 08:20 PM   #5
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Nah. Bill>Brady.

All you have to do is imagine Brady going to the Jets/Browns/Bucs or whoever when he was drafted and you have your answer. Bill created the culture and the lockerroom in NE, brought in a 7th round gangly game-manager QB and forged him into a good QB. Hell, he did the same thing with Bledsoe before Brady.
Bucs were 5-11 and 7-9 last two years.
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Old 10-25-2020, 08:55 PM   #6
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Bucs were 5-11 and 7-9 last two years.
And started Jameis Winston. Who is a complete idiot and interception waiting to happen.
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Old 10-25-2020, 09:52 PM   #7
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Bucs were 5-11 and 7-9 last two years.
The Bucs were loaded with talent last year. They just had a shit QB holding them back.

We’ve seen teams with a lot of talent look worse than they really are due to QB situation. May I introduce you to the 2012 Chiefs?
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Old 10-26-2020, 12:06 AM   #8
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The Bucs were loaded with talent last year. They just had a shit QB holding them back.
Brady walked onto a team who's QB just threw for 5000 yards...
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Old 10-26-2020, 07:45 AM   #9
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Brady walked onto a team who's QB just threw for 5000 yards...
And 30 interceptions.
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Old 10-26-2020, 08:20 AM   #10
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Yes it’s official after six games

If the Pats are bad for Three years straight maybe the arguments can begin.

It’s not like Brady went to a shit team with no talent and they’re all of the sudden good. Bucs have had talent but Winston is volatile. Did we forget that like half the Pats D opted out?
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It was booth of them. I think Brady could have won 1-2 rings with any other decent franchise.

I can't say the same thing about Belicheck because the QB is so important. But for them to win 6, it isn't one or the other, but the combination of both (along with cheating!).
This is correct. Remember, Brady wasn't so great last year in NE. I don't think Brady would have made a lot of difference in NE this year, either. But he is definitely better than Cam.

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Bucs were 5-11 and 7-9 last two years.
Jamis Winston led them to the #1 offense in the league last year, if I recall correctly. His problem was that he turned over the ball too much. So let's not act as if the team wasn't already built into a good team. Brady walked into a great situation for him to succeed. But let's not get ahead of ourselves. Still a long way to go before you crown him. Personally, I hope he fails.
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Old 10-26-2020, 01:10 PM   #11
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Jamis Winston led them to the #1 offense in the league last year, if I recall correctly. His problem was that he turned over the ball too much. So let's not act as if the team wasn't already built into a good team. Brady walked into a great situation for him to succeed. But let's not get ahead of ourselves. Still a long way to go before you crown him. Personally, I hope he fails.
The Bucs offense was 23rd in DVOA last year (-7.4%). They were 7th (9.2%) before the Raiders game this year.



So no, the offense has vastly improved.
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Old 10-26-2020, 02:54 PM   #12
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The Bucs offense was 23rd in DVOA last year (-7.4%). They were 7th (9.2%) before the Raiders game this year.



So no, the offense has vastly improved.
They led the league in passing yards and were tied for 3rd in scoring. Like I said, Winston was a major reason why they weren't more successful. Turnovers kill an offense.
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Nah. Bill>Brady.

All you have to do is imagine Brady going to the Jets/Browns/Bucs or whoever when he was drafted and you have your answer. Bill created the culture and the lockerroom in NE, brought in a 7th round gangly game-manager QB and forged him into a good QB. Hell, he did the same thing with Bledsoe before Brady.
That culture only works with a HOF QB. That's one of the reasons every assistant that leaves NE fails trying to implement the "Patriot Way".
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Old 10-25-2020, 08:30 PM   #14
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That culture only works with a HOF QB. That's one of the reasons every assistant that leaves NE fails trying to implement the "Patriot Way".
Bill still won nearly twice as many games as he lost when he had to start someone else besides Brady.

Brady would've been a "one-and-done" QB if he'd gone to a bottom tier organization.
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Bill still won nearly twice as many games as he lost when he had to start someone else besides Brady.

Brady would've been a "one-and-done" QB if he'd gone to a bottom tier organization.
It'll need to play itself out. Who can win without the other. As HC Bill has time on his side once Bradys days are over.
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