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Dante84 · 05-04-2022, 10:46 PM

Listening to Veach’s presser and interview with Florio, he referenced that Clark told him not to use next year’s first to make a move this year (because the draft is in KC).

Now, some of the KC press tweeted it out and said that Veach “joked” about Clark saying that, but if you watch it, Veach isn’t joking, he’s just saying it. He then laughs when he says he told Clark that “Vegas is hosting this draft and don’t have a first.” That almost led me to believe they might have considered moving way up this year had Clark not shut it down.

In any event, it’s clearly important to Clark that we show well as the draft host next year, and that got me thinking: is there potential for us to make a huge trade up next year, if there’s a “dude” that Veach wants? If so, who? And how high?

It would have to be for a premium position of need, so maybe WR or Edge. Or, maybe there’s a Kyle Pitts type of player at TE or a freak DT?

Anyways, just throwing it out there, as maybe we can’t rule anything out.

KC Hawks · 05-04-2022, 11:10 PM

Veach is getting Will Anderson...in my dreams...

TambaBerry · 05-05-2022, 06:53 AM

Unless these qbs are actually the real deal I don't see how he doesn't go number one

**Buehler445** · 05-05-2022, 07:26 AM

Probably depends on how the year goes.

WR room will be pretty empty barring FA or several extensions.

DE is probably still a colossal need.

Hopefully we're still at the end of the first round... I think we will be... It will depend on how the round falls.

**The Franchise** · 05-05-2022, 07:32 AM

It’s going to depend on who gets invited. I would imagine that Clark wants their guy walking out on that stage in front of all the fans.

**chiefforlife** · 05-11-2022, 10:16 AM

You have to understand Clarks position. He has to consider the Brand as well as the team. No way do you host the draft and not have a first rounder, unless you are Vegas (not the company you want to be in).

I think we all agree that Veach killed this draft, murdered may be a better word. Im sure Clark and Veach considered options and Clark realized we could improve without trading next years first which would be his preference anyway.

Trading up from 32 next year is going to be expensive!

Direckshun · 05-11-2022, 02:27 PM

This is our 2023 roster:

QB: Mahomes
RB: Edwards-Helaire, Pacheco
FB:

WR: Valdez-Scantling, Moore
TE: Kelce, Gray

LT: Brown (assuming an extension), Niang
LG: Thuney,
C: Humphrey,
RG: Smith
RT: Kinnard, Niang

DE: [strikethrough]Clark[/strikethrough] (cut), Kaindoh
DT: Jones
DT:
DE: Karlaftis, Danna, Herring

OLB: Gay
ILB: Bolton
OLB: Chanel

CB: McDuffie, Sneed, Williams, Watson
S: Reid, Cook, Johnson

K: Butker
P:
LS: Winchester

This is a team that is going to have to make investments at the DL and probably keep adding weapons at WR.

Significant free agents:

WR JuJu Smith-Schuster
WR Mecole Hardman
TE Jody Fortson
OT Orlando Brown
G Andrew Wylie
G Nick Allegretti
DT Tershawn Wharton
DT Derrick Nnadi
DT Khalen Saunders
CB Rashad Fenton
S Juan Thornhill
P Tommy Townsend

La0laEsMia · 05-11-2022, 02:54 PM

great post ^. This is why i come to this place.

Wilson8 · 05-11-2022, 04:54 PM

The draft is always more entertaining when you have some draft picks to use.

I don't think that Chris Jones is with the 2023 Chiefs.

Chris needs to have a very good year in 2022 to keep his value up.

His cap number for 2023 is $27,041,668 and KC can save $20 M by trading or releasing him.

Maybe a trade just before the draft and use a high pick for a DT.

Nightfyre · 05-11-2022, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilson8

The draft is always more entertaining when you have some draft picks to use.

I don't think that Chris Jones is with the 2023 Chiefs.

Chris needs to have a very good year in 2022 to keep his value up.

His cap number for 2023 is $27,041,668 and KC can save $20 M by trading or releasing him.

Maybe a trade just before the draft and use a high pick for a DT.

My bet is that they extend him

Wilson8 · 05-11-2022, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

My bet is that they extend him

Chris Jones's cap number for 2022 is $29,415,666.

I suppose KC could extend, but Chris's playing value and his cost are going in two different directions.

Let's see him healthy and playing well and then figure out what to do.

Stryker · 05-11-2022, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun

This is our 2023 roster:

QB: Mahomes
RB: Edwards-Helaire, Pacheco
FB:

WR: Valdez-Scantling, Moore
TE: Kelce, Gray

LT: Brown (assuming an extension), Niang
LG: Thuney,
C: Humphrey,
RG: Smith
RT: Kinnard, Niang

DE: [strikethrough]Clark[/strikethrough] (cut), Kaindoh
DT: Jones
DT:
DE: Karlaftis, Danna, Herring

OLB: Gay
ILB: Bolton
OLB: Chanel

CB: McDuffie, Sneed, Williams, Watson
S: Reid, Cook, Johnson

K: Butker
P:
LS: Winchester

This is a team that is going to have to make investments at the DL and probably keep adding weapons at WR.

Significant free agents:

WR JuJu Smith-Schuster
WR Mecole Hardman
TE Jody Fortson
OT Orlando Brown
G Andrew Wylie
G Nick Allegretti
DT Tershawn Wharton
DT Derrick Nnadi
DT Khalen Saunders
CB Rashad Fenton
S Juan Thornhill
P Tommy Townsend

I think resigning OBJ and Townsend is a no brainer - as for the rest, it is going to depend on how Spags feels at the end of the season of how well his "D" did.

Also, how did the offense do? What do we have at WR, TE and RB? How did our draft picks do? What position(s) do we need to address at that point in time?

Bump · 05-11-2022, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun

This is our 2023 roster:

QB: Mahomes
RB: Edwards-Helaire, Pacheco
FB:

WR: Valdez-Scantling, Moore
TE: Kelce, Gray

LT: Brown (assuming an extension), Niang
LG: Thuney,
C: Humphrey,
RG: Smith
RT: Kinnard, Niang

DE: [strikethrough]Clark[/strikethrough] (cut), Kaindoh
DT: Jones
DT:
DE: Karlaftis, Danna, Herring

OLB: Gay
ILB: Bolton
OLB: Chanel

CB: McDuffie, Sneed, Williams, Watson
S: Reid, Cook, Johnson

K: Butker
P:
LS: Winchester

This is a team that is going to have to make investments at the DL and probably keep adding weapons at WR.

Significant free agents:

WR JuJu Smith-Schuster
WR Mecole Hardman
TE Jody Fortson
OT Orlando Brown
G Andrew Wylie
G Nick Allegretti
DT Tershawn Wharton
DT Derrick Nnadi
DT Khalen Saunders
CB Rashad Fenton
S Juan Thornhill
P Tommy Townsend

well the key pieces are in place, obviously DL and WR will have to be addressed and another CB.

Direckshun · 05-12-2022, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bump

well the key pieces are in place, obviously DL and WR will have to be addressed and another CB.

So basically exactly this past offseason.

Only with like ten times the cap space.

Direckshun · 05-12-2022, 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilson8

The draft is always more entertaining when you have some draft picks to use.

I don't think that Chris Jones is with the 2023 Chiefs.

Chris needs to have a very good year in 2022 to keep his value up.

His cap number for 2023 is $27,041,668 and KC can save $20 M by trading or releasing him.

Maybe a trade just before the draft and use a high pick for a DT.

I was certain the Chiefs were circling around Jordan Davis, which would have allowed the Chiefs to move on from Chris Jones.

But not only did the Chiefs not take Jordan Davis, they didn't take any DTs.

So... they have no DTs under contract in 2023. They can't let Jones walk without leaving the cupboard completely bare, but they can extend him.

05-04-2022, 10:46 PM
Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Dante84's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS	Will we make a big splash next year? Listening to Veach’s presser and interview with Florio, he referenced that Clark told him not to use next year’s first to make a move this year (because the draft is in KC). Now, some of the KC press tweeted it out and said that Veach “joked” about Clark saying that, but if you watch it, Veach isn’t joking, he’s just saying it. He then laughs when he says he told Clark that “Vegas is hosting this draft and don’t have a first.” That almost led me to believe they might have considered moving way up this year had Clark not shut it down. In any event, it’s clearly important to Clark that we show well as the draft host next year, and that got me thinking: is there potential for us to make a huge trade up next year, if there’s a “dude” that Veach wants? If so, who? And how high? It would have to be for a premium position of need, so maybe WR or Edge. Or, maybe there’s a Kyle Pitts type of player at TE or a freak DT? Anyways, just throwing it out there, as maybe we can’t rule anything out.
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05-11-2022, 02:27 PM	#7
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch	This is our 2023 roster: QB: Mahomes RB: Edwards-Helaire, Pacheco FB: WR: Valdez-Scantling, Moore TE: Kelce, Gray LT: Brown (assuming an extension), Niang LG: Thuney, C: Humphrey, RG: Smith RT: Kinnard, Niang DE: [strikethrough]Clark[/strikethrough] (cut), Kaindoh DT: Jones DT: DE: Karlaftis, Danna, Herring OLB: Gay ILB: Bolton OLB: Chanel CB: McDuffie, Sneed, Williams, Watson S: Reid, Cook, Johnson K: Butker P: LS: Winchester This is a team that is going to have to make investments at the DL and probably keep adding weapons at WR. Significant free agents: WR JuJu Smith-Schuster WR Mecole Hardman TE Jody Fortson OT Orlando Brown G Andrew Wylie G Nick Allegretti DT Tershawn Wharton DT Derrick Nnadi DT Khalen Saunders CB Rashad Fenton S Juan Thornhill P Tommy Townsend
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Wilson8 Veteran Wilson8's Avatar Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kansas City	The draft is always more entertaining when you have some draft picks to use. I don't think that Chris Jones is with the 2023 Chiefs. Chris needs to have a very good year in 2022 to keep his value up. His cap number for 2023 is $27,041,668 and KC can save $20 M by trading or releasing him. Maybe a trade just before the draft and use a high pick for a DT.
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