***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[tk13]

Originally Posted by Eleazar

Meanwhile:

In Britain, the pubs reopened. In Japan and around Europe, children are going back to school. Professional sports have resumed, albeit without fans for now. Restaurants are open again. The pandemic is over for the most part in countries where they took it seriously from the jump.

Whether they are young people testing positive in the US or not, we're the only country that seems to be dealing with a second peak in the first wave. In other places the tide seems to have gone out.

March 22:

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...postcount=9204

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by tk13

March 22:

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...postcount=9204

Yep...

We're paying it back with interest now. This whole thing could be over, at least for now

[TLO]

What will the excuse be when all these countries receiving praise start seeing an up-tick in cases?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

What will the excuse be when all these countries receiving praise start seeing an up-tick in cases?

It's just funny how some are convinced this could all be over by now. Just poof...gone.

I also read an article today that states are starting to admit that the protests helped spread this.


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[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by sedated

Larger populations?



Who? They have themselves admitted it was a mistake.

The man behind Sweden’s controversial Covid-19 strategy has characterized lockdowns imposed across much of the globe as a form of “madness” that flies in the face of what is known about handling viral outbreaks.

Anders Tegnell, Sweden’s state epidemiologist, said he advised against such restrictions on movement because of the detrimental side effects they often entail.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...sing-lockdowns

Wrong. Honestly, I don't trust the US media on Sweden anymore than I trust RT to report on Putin.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by petegz28

That's idiotic. First off there are people who legitimately cannot wear masks for medical reasons.

Those people should make the necessary accommodations to not be in public.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by TLO

What will the excuse be when all these countries receiving praise start seeing an up-tick in cases?

Out of curiosity, what makes you think they will?

I wouldn't be surprised at all if the UK sees something akin to what we are, however.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Those people should make the necessary accommodations to not be in public.

Or you should just stay out of public and then you won't have to worry. How's that?

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by TLO

What will the excuse be when all these countries receiving praise start seeing an up-tick in cases?

I highly doubt we will see that happen in the East Asian countries because they are way more disciplined than we are. Europe though, it will probably happen considering the photos/videos posted this weekend that I saw of packed bars and restaurants.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Or you should just stay out of public and then you won't have to worry. How's that?

That would make more sense. If you are scared, stay home. The rest of us will keep the society rolling.

And if you are truly someone that is high-risk I do believe we as a society should protect them.

[Third Eye]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Or you should just stay out of public and then you won't have to worry. How's that?

Given that more than 99.99% of the population don’t have a medical condition that would prevent them from wearing a mask for a short time, it would seem to make sense that the onus would be on them.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Third Eye

Given that more than 99.99% of the population don’t have a medical condition that would prevent them from wearing a mask for a short time, it would seem to make sense that the onus would be on them.

Given that 99% of the country don't have Covid it would seem that we should just not worry about it at all.


See how that works?

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

That would make more sense. If you are scared, stay home. The rest of us will keep the society rolling.

And if you are truly someone that is high-risk I do believe we as a society should protect them.

Scared so stay home? Not everyone has that choice depending on your line of work.

And can we stop with the pre existing and high risk bullshit. Half of those hospitalized in AZ are 20-44 years old and many without pre existing conditions. That drum died in May so stop beating it.

[jdubya]

In my county of 1.1 million in the SF Bay Area, we have had 85 Covid deaths. 69 of which were patients in long term assisted living or con homes.

[Third Eye]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Given that 99% of the country don't have Covid it would seem that we should just not worry about it at all.


See how that works?

I mean, if you’re into non-sequitar, then great. Otherwise, your analogy does not apply at all.