***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by srvy

Aha and so many health workers goy covid19. Not the right mask for the job hmmmm.

It's almost like there weren't enough to go around and no one made claims of 100 percent immunity. It's harm and risk reduction, not a force field.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by TLO

We legitimately have no idea how many people it has infected.

Absolutely

[MahomesMagic]

Leading epidemiologist Dr. John Ioannidis of Stanford University estimates that about 150-300 million or more people have already been infected by COVID-19 around the world, far more than the 10 million documented cases.
https://usa.greekreporter.com/2020/0...oannidis-says/

[srvy]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It's almost like there weren't enough to go around and no one made claims of 100 percent immunity. It's harm and risk reduction, not a force field.

You are such a phony. The end justifies the means am I right yellow vest.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by srvy

You are such a phony. The end justifies the means am I right yellow vest.

Man, that would really sting if it meant anything at all. Excellent comeback, though. I suggest you retreat back to your safe space, where people celebrate ignorance and loathe information.

Nothing more Machiavellian than providing correct information on what masks actually do.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Leading epidemiologist Dr. John Ioannidis of Stanford University estimates that about 150-300 million or more people have already been infected by COVID-19 around the world, far more than the 10 million documented cases.
https://usa.greekreporter.com/2020/0...oannidis-says/

That's... crazy to think about.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Donger

Florida set a US record for coronavirus cases in a single day Saturday, with a total of 11,458 new cases, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University (JHU).

Florida has now surpassed New York's previous highest single-day total of 11,434, which was recorded on April 15, by JHU.

[BossChief]

Florida doesn’t have the subway nightmare and has the benefit of data NY didn’t. They are also testing more than NY did. I highly doubt they ever sniff NYs death count.

[Chief Pagan]

Hopefully not and treatments have gotten better. But Florida has a high percentage of over 65.

Yes the current spread is tending younger but I don't think it's possible to completely isolate the older population.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Florida doesn’t have the subway nightmare and has the benefit of data NY didn’t. They are also testing more than NY did. I highly doubt they ever sniff NYs death count.

They got about 29,000 or so deaths to go before they catch up to NY

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Florida doesn’t have the subway nightmare and has the benefit of data NY didn’t. They are also testing more than NY did. I highly doubt they ever sniff NYs death count.

They have not done quite half the testing of NY.

[jdubya]

Up here in north Idaho it seems the only ones wearing masks are Washingtonians and Oregonites. Some stores ask that customers wear masks while some restaurants and bars are completely normal as if Covid doesn’t exist.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by TLO

That's... crazy to think about.

A new study suggests the number of coronavirus cases in the U.S. in March could have been 80 times greater and doubled nearly twice as fast than originally reported, amounting to more than 8.7 million coronavirus cases that went undiagnosed.

The report, led by researchers from Penn State University (PSU), analyzed surveillance data on influenza-like illnesses (ILI) from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) xthat were never diagnosed as coronavirus, influenza or any other viruses over a three-week period in March, according to the study published in the journal Science Translational Medicine.
https://thehill.com/changing-america...-may-have-gone

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Florida doesn’t have the subway nightmare and has the benefit of data NY didn’t. They are also testing more than NY did. I highly doubt they ever sniff NYs death count.

Yeah I don't think they will match NY because it is not as dense except Miami. But if it gets a foothold in the Villages all bets are off.

[tk13]

The Milwaukee Bucks have shut down the team’s practice facility after receiving results of a Friday round of coronavirus testing, sources tell ESPN. The team isn’t expected to reopen facility for workouts prior to the organization's traveling party leaving for Orlando Thursday.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 5, 2020