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Old 02-17-2019, 12:41 PM  
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2019 Nascar thread

Schedule
DAYTONA 500
Sunday, Feb 17
2:30 PM Daytona International Speedway

Folds of Honor QuikTrip 500
Sunday, Feb 24
2:00 PM Atlanta Motor Speedway

MARCH 2019
Pennzoil 400 presented by Jiffy Lube
Sunday, Mar 3
3:30 PM Las Vegas Motor Speedway

TicketGuardian 500
Sunday, Mar 10
3:30 PM ISM Raceway

Auto Club 400
Sunday, Mar 17
3:30 PM Auto Club Speedway

STP 500
Sunday, Mar 24
2:00 PM Martinsville Speedway

O’Reilly Auto Parts 500
Sunday, Mar 31
3:00 PM Texas Motor Speedway

APRIL 2019
Food City 500
Sunday, Apr 7
2:00 PM Bristol Motor Speedway

TOYOTA OWNERS 400
Saturday, Apr 13
7:30 PM Richmond Raceway

GEICO 500
Sunday, Apr 28
2:00 PM Talladega Superspeedway

MAY 2019
Monster Energy NASCAR Cup Series Race at Dover
Sunday, May 5
2:00 PM Dover International Speedway

Monster Energy NASCAR Cup Series Race at Kansas
Saturday, May 11
7:30 PM Kansas Speedway

Monster Energy Open
Saturday, May 18
6:00 PM Charlotte Motor Speedway

Monster Energy NASCAR All-Star Race
Saturday, May 18
8:00 PM Charlotte Motor Speedway

Coca-Cola 600
Sunday, May 26
6:00 PM Charlotte Motor Speedway

JUNE 2019
Pocono 400
Sunday, Jun 2
2:00 PM Pocono Raceway

FireKeepers Casino 400
Sunday, Jun 9
2:00 PM Michigan International Speedway

Toyota / Save Mart 350
Sunday, Jun 23
3:00 PM Sonoma Raceway

Camping World 400
Sunday, Jun 30
3:00 PM Chicagoland Speedway

JULY 2019
Coke Zero Sugar 400
Saturday, Jul 6
7:30 PM Daytona International Speedway

Quaker State 400 Presented by Walmart
Saturday, Jul 13
7:30 PM Kentucky Speedway

Foxwoods Resort Casino 301
Sunday, Jul 21
3:00 PM New Hampshire Motor Speedway

Gander Outdoors 400
Sunday, Jul 28
3:00 PM Pocono Raceway

AUGUST 2019
Go Bowling at The Glen
Sunday, Aug 4
3:00 PM Watkins Glen International

Consumers Energy 400
Sunday, Aug 11
3:00 PM Michigan International Speedway

Bass Pro Shops NRA Night Race
Saturday, Aug 17
7:30 PM Bristol Motor Speedway

SEPTEMBER 2019*PLAYOFF RACE
Bojangles’ Southern 500
Sunday, Sep 1
6:00 PM Darlington Raceway

Big Machine Vodka 400 at the Brickyard Powered By Florida Georgia Line
Sunday, Sep 8
2:00 PM Indianapolis Motor Speedway

*South Point 400
Sunday, Sep 15
7:00 PM Las Vegas Motor Speedway

*Federated Auto Parts 400
Saturday, Sep 21
7:30 PM Richmond Raceway

*Bank of America ROVAL 400
Sunday, Sep 29
2:30 PM Charlotte Motor Speedway Road Course

OCTOBER 2019*PLAYOFF RACE
*Monster Energy NASCAR Cup Series Race at Dover
Sunday, Oct 6
2:30 PM Dover International Speedway

*1000Bulbs.com 500
Sunday, Oct 13
2:00 PM Talladega Superspeedway

*Hollywood Casino 400
Sunday, Oct 20
2:30 PM Kansas Speedway

*First Data 500
Sunday, Oct 27
3:00 PM Martinsville Speedway

NOVEMBER 2019*PLAYOFF RACE
*AAA Texas 500
Sunday, Nov 3
3:00 PM Texas Motor Speedway

*Monster Energy NASCAR Cup Series Race at ISM Raceway
Sunday, Nov 10
2:30 PM ISM Raceway

*Ford EcoBoost 400
Sunday, Nov 17
3:00 PM Homestead-Miami Speedway


Jimmie Johnson and Chad Knaus split up. With Knaus going to William Byron. Kevin Meendering goes to Jimmie Johnson. Lowes has also exited.
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Old 06-22-2020, 10:52 AM   #331
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Is there any proof that this may be another Smollet situation?
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Old 06-22-2020, 11:10 AM   #332
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Then it may have been a racist piece of shit within NASCAR then.

My initial response was to somebody ridiculously suggesting it was a false flag operation based on no evidence and with no good reason for doing so.
Could have or may have. We don't know yet and we may never know the truth of the situation. I hope we do.
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Old 06-22-2020, 11:16 AM   #333
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Then it may have been a racist piece of shit within NASCAR then.

My initial response was to somebody ridiculously suggesting it was a false flag operation based on no evidence and with no good reason for doing so.
There is plenty of good reason to consider the possibility that this is a false flag operation. Are you saying there isn't?
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Old 06-22-2020, 11:17 AM   #334
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Is there any proof that this may be another Smollet situation?
There is no proof one way or the other. It is one possibility that must be considered until it is eliminated. It makes just as much, or more, sense that it would be a false flag as that it would not be.
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Old 06-22-2020, 11:24 AM   #335
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There is plenty of good reason to consider the possibility that this is a false flag operation. Are you saying there isn't?
There's plenty of good reason for NASCAR to drive loads of negative attention their way needlessly and now an FBI investigation? Or are you suggesting it was Wallace himself (which makes even less sense)?

Either way, it's a load of crap.
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Old 06-22-2020, 11:25 AM   #336
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Could have been done by someone wanting to stoke the flames of racism and to make Alabama and Nascar look bad. In todays world you just don't know unless you have the facts.
Sure a possibility but the environment was created for this to occur.



Brehanna is the first black women to work in a NASCAR pit crew. She took this on her way into the track on race day.


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Old 06-22-2020, 11:27 AM   #337
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There's plenty of good reason for NASCAR to drive loads of negative attention their way needlessly and now an FBI investigation? Or are you suggesting it was Wallace himself (which makes even less sense)?

Either way, it's a load a crap.
I'm not sure you understand the concept of false flag. Here:

"A false flag operation is an act committed with the intent of disguising the actual source of responsibility and pinning blame on a second party.
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Old 06-22-2020, 11:33 AM   #338
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What are you even talking about? The incident happened in Alabama and it stands to reason that it could very well have been one of the racist piece of shit locals there working on the track.
So now you are saying it could have been someone that worked there just like the post you quoted but then disagreed with.

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Old 06-22-2020, 11:40 AM   #339
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I'm not sure you understand the concept of false flag. Here:

"A false flag operation is an act committed with the intent of disguising the actual source of responsibility and pinning blame on a second party.
Answer the question. False flags generally have a reason behind them that will benefit somebody or something. What was the reason here?
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Old 06-22-2020, 11:45 AM   #340
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So now you are saying it could have been someone that worked there just like the post you quoted but then disagreed with.

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The post I quoted suggested the incident was "staged" based on no evidence. It had nothing to do with whether it was somebody who worked there (which was and is always a possibility).

Just because some idiot actor wanted to elevate his career one time doesn't mean we assume every racist act going forward is somehow a false flag.
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Old 06-22-2020, 11:49 AM   #341
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Sure a possibility but the environment was created for this to occur.



Brehanna is the first black women to work in a NASCAR pit crew. She took this on her way into the track on race day.


Can't see the video but there are plenty of misguided people who fly the confederate flag but if that's their freedom of expression then so be it. That's their right.
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Old 06-22-2020, 11:52 AM   #342
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Old 06-22-2020, 11:52 AM   #343
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The post I quoted suggested the incident was "staged" based on no evidence. It had nothing to do with whether it was somebody who worked there (which was and is always a possibility).

Just because some idiot actor wanted to elevate his career one time doesn't mean we assume every racist act going forward is somehow a false flag.
No but with the lack of access makes it more likely an inside job than just "some local redneck racist" kind of bullshit. Like I said critical thinking.

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Old 06-22-2020, 11:54 AM   #344
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Old 06-22-2020, 11:55 AM   #345
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Answer the question. False flags generally have a reason behind them that will benefit somebody or something. What was the reason here?
I don't believe Bubba has the ability to climb to the top of the sport and maximize his platform. If someone wanted to make a bunch of people look bad and instantly give Bubba a bigger stage to spread his word, mission accomplished.

It's also possible that some racist wasn't smart enough to realize the results of his actions.
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