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UChieffyBugger · 08-26-2019, 08:13 AM

Listened to the Arrowhead pride podcast yesterday and the guys were down on the secondary and seemed pretty convinced that Veach is not gonna allow the team to go into the first week with the same corner-back group. So it just got me thinking about the options out there and what Veach might be thinking.

Teams we are not likely to trade with imo.

Denver
Chargers
Raiders
Pats
Colts
Jaggs
Ravens
Ten
Browns
Steelers
Rams
Saints
Philly
Bears
Vikings

Etc etc. Basically all AFC contenders plus our division rivals. And the majority of the NFC top teams probably aren't gonna want to help us either knowing we could see them in the final. Cowboys, Seattle, Atlanta, Carolina and Packers might be the exception I think but I think we might have to target lower ranked teams to do a deal. And even then, some teams like Zona will demand the whole farm.

Does anyone have any suggestions of who Veach could possibly target?

O.city · 08-26-2019, 08:22 AM

Gotta look at teams that maybe contractually aren't gonna keep a guy or whatever.

The Cowboys would make sense, Carolina maybe too.

Hammock Parties · 08-26-2019, 08:34 AM

Fescoe said he was texting with someone in the Chiefs front office and they went radio silent on the Patrick Peterson question.

Buckweath · 08-26-2019, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Fescoe said he was texting with someone in the Chiefs front office and they went radio silent on the Patrick Peterson question.

Doesn't mean anything IMO.

O.city · 08-26-2019, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Fescoe said he was texting with someone in the Chiefs front office and they went radio silent on the Patrick Peterson question.

It really makes all the sense in the world to trade for him. The Cardinals are gonna suck and need picks and the Chiefs need a Cb. He's on the back end of prime years.

The suspension really killed it, but that could help with us in terms of compensation though.

Mecca · 08-26-2019, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

It really makes all the sense in the world to trade for him. The Cardinals are gonna suck and need picks and the Chiefs need a Cb. He's on the back end of prime years.

The suspension really killed it, but that could help with us in terms of compensation though.

The problem is though a 30 year old CB coming off a PED suspension is worth a 3 a 2 tops maybe based on conditions, Arizona seems to think he's worth a top 10 pick.

Buckweath · 08-26-2019, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

It really makes all the sense in the world to trade for him. The Cardinals are gonna suck and need picks and the Chiefs need a Cb. He's on the back end of prime years.

The suspension really killed it, but that could help with us in terms of compensation though.

Patrick Peterson to the Chiefs makes absolutely a ton of sense.

The problem is the Cards might want nothing less than a 1st round pick and I feel that a 1st round pick is overpaying for a 29-year old and suspended CB.

The other big problem is the fact that the Cards have lost Robert Alford, CB, to injury for something like half the season.

So a trade for PP before the deadline seems highly unlikely IMO.

Dante84 · 08-26-2019, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath

Patrick Peterson to the Chiefs makes absolutely a ton of sense.

The problem is the Cards might want nothing less than a 1st round pick and I feel that a 1st round pick is overpaying for a 29-year old and suspended CB.

The other big problem is the fact that the Cards have lost Robert Alford, CB, to injury for something like half the season.

So a trade for PP before the deadline seems highly unlikely IMO.

I think we'll end up swinging them our 49'ers 2nd rounder and a 4th rounder around week 3 or 4.

They start with: Lions, Ravens, Panthers, Seahawks, Bengals, Falcons.

If they start 0-3, or 0-4, they should be prepared to make that move. We really need them to lose week 1 against the Lions to set the tone for their season as a lost cause/rebuild.

sedated · 08-26-2019, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Fescoe said he was texting with someone in the Chiefs front office and they went radio silent on the Patrick Peterson question.

That take was the epitome of idiocy. It was Tyreek straight up for PP, with the justification that KC is going all in this year. If they are going all in this year, they are not going to get rid of one of their top 3 players.

"Well do you want to get something for Tyreek now or possibly let him walk after the season?" Uhhh, that's what you do when you are going all in - you load up even if you will lose guys after the season.

**MahiMike** · 08-26-2019, 08:42 AM

What's the deal with trades this time of year? Does this always happen? Don't remember that.

Mecca · 08-26-2019, 08:44 AM

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What's the deal with trades this time of year? Does this always happen? Don't remember that.

Teams will trade guys they're gonna cut for positions they lack depth in or for conditional late draft choices.

Buckweath · 08-26-2019, 08:54 AM

This team is literally a good CB away from having really good chances to make it to the SB.

I thought all offseason that a trade for a good CB was coming up but I've come to realize that there might not be much options. If anything, teams are looking to add at the CB position, not trade away good ones unless you overpay.

Breeland, Ward and Claiborne is one big gamble.

Mecca · 08-26-2019, 09:11 AM

That's nice but Washington has an incompetent front office.

O.city · 08-26-2019, 09:14 AM

Oh there's no way they'd trade a first for PP. Maybe a 2nd, but more likely a 3rd would be the most you'd move at this point.

08-26-2019, 08:13 AM	#2
UChieffyBugger CP'S "MOST HATED" 😆 UChieffyBugger's Avatar Join Date: Feb 2018	Listened to the Arrowhead pride podcast yesterday and the guys were down on the secondary and seemed pretty convinced that Veach is not gonna allow the team to go into the first week with the same corner-back group. So it just got me thinking about the options out there and what Veach might be thinking. Teams we are not likely to trade with imo. Denver Chargers Raiders Pats Colts Jaggs Ravens Ten Browns Steelers Rams Saints Philly Bears Vikings Etc etc. Basically all AFC contenders plus our division rivals. And the majority of the NFC top teams probably aren't gonna want to help us either knowing we could see them in the final. Cowboys, Seattle, Atlanta, Carolina and Packers might be the exception I think but I think we might have to target lower ranked teams to do a deal. And even then, some teams like Zona will demand the whole farm. Does anyone have any suggestions of who Veach could possibly target?
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Buckweath Veteran Buckweath's Avatar Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Quebec, Canada	This team is literally a good CB away from having really good chances to make it to the SB. I thought all offseason that a trade for a good CB was coming up but I've come to realize that there might not be much options. If anything, teams are looking to add at the CB position, not trade away good ones unless you overpay. Breeland, Ward and Claiborne is one big gamble.
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O.city In Search of a Life O.city's Avatar Join Date: Jul 2009	Oh there's no way they'd trade a first for PP. Maybe a 2nd, but more likely a 3rd would be the most you'd move at this point.
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