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Old 11-30-2017, 05:03 PM   #2
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Look man. If you think the best anyone can do with Vermiels roster is 5-11, despite teams in the NFL constantly dumping payroll and churning age off the roster without being a complete and utter ****ing joke, then that’s just you being ****ing obtuse and refusing to stop white knighting Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards who wrecked the ****ing franchise.

/run-on sentence.
Maybe we should have traded 2 seconds for a QB. Spent cap money we didn't have on backloaded contracts for a few overpriced veterans instead of playing rookies. A safe QB alone would have gotten you closer to the 8-8 you so desperately craved. The fact that you're still stuck on the idea that Vermeil's geriatric roster was worth building off of or that you think this was a simple payroll dump proves that you still have no concept about how bad of a situation Peterson/Vermeil dumped off.

God forbid we had one coach in the last 20 years who chose an actual rebuild, who chose to develop QBs instead of trading for retreads, who didn't load our roster with second wave overpriced middling free agents. We finally have one who did that and we're complaining that we didn't make enough safe moves to keep us at .500. This is why KC will always settle for mediocrity. Blowing up the roster was ballsy and it was the right decision. Period.

And again... for all your talk about how easy it is to turn a team around in 3 years, can you say Jacksonville? Gus Bradley got scapegoated too. And it's looking like his decisions to rebuild in the same way Herm did is turning out brilliantly well. But not before he got run out of town for being a 3-win wonder. Thankfully the Jags had the patience to let him see the rebuild all the way through.
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Old 11-30-2017, 05:41 PM   #3
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I wouldn't wish Herm on my worst enemy.

Well maybe Billay and the Nebraska Cornhumpers.
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Old 11-30-2017, 05:59 PM   #4
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Maybe we should have traded 2 seconds for a QB. Spent cap money we didn't have on backloaded contracts for a few overpriced veterans instead of playing rookies. A safe QB alone would have gotten you closer to the 8-8 you so desperately craved. The fact that you're still stuck on the idea that Vermeil's geriatric roster was worth building off of or that you think this was a simple payroll dump proves that you still have no concept about how bad of a situation Peterson/Vermeil dumped off.

God forbid we had one coach in the last 20 years who chose an actual rebuild, who chose to develop QBs instead of trading for retreads, who didn't load our roster with second wave overpriced middling free agents. We finally have one who did that and we're complaining that we didn't make enough safe moves to keep us at .500. This is why KC will always settle for mediocrity. Blowing up the roster was ballsy and it was the right decision. Period.

And again... for all your talk about how easy it is to turn a team around in 3 years, can you say Jacksonville? Gus Bradley got scapegoated too. And it's looking like his decisions to rebuild in the same way Herm did is turning out brilliantly well. But not before he got run out of town for being a 3-win wonder. Thankfully the Jags had the patience to let him seeindidn the rebuild all the way through.
I didn’t say it was easy. Don’t put that shit on me. I’m just saying other teams do it so 5-11 isn’t the upper limit of year 3 like you keep postulating. It is also possible to rehabilitate a good team (which Vermiels was) without being abysmally terrible. Because you know, good teams do it.

Fact of the matter is if you’re going to take a decent team and blow it the **** up the key to THE WHOLE MOTHER****ING THING is finding personnel at good value. The only thing that will make the thing go, he failed ****ing miserably at.

Accordingly he took a decent team with decent talent and wrecked it. He wrecked the ****ing franchise. There is no way around it. By the end of year 3 it was all his creation. All of it. And it was a ****ing tire fire.

He wrecked the franchise.
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Old 11-30-2017, 07:02 PM   #5
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I didn’t say it was easy. Don’t put that shit on me. I’m just saying other teams do it so 5-11 isn’t the upper limit of year 3 like you keep postulating. It is also possible to rehabilitate a good team (which Vermiels was) without being abysmally terrible. Because you know, good teams do it.

Fact of the matter is if you’re going to take a decent team and blow it the **** up the key to THE WHOLE MOTHER****ING THING is finding personnel at good value. The only thing that will make the thing go, he failed ****ing miserably at.

Accordingly he took a decent team with decent talent and wrecked it. He wrecked the ****ing franchise. There is no way around it. By the end of year 3 it was all his creation. All of it. And it was a ****ing tire fire.

He wrecked the franchise.
It wasn't year 3. It was year 2 or arguably year 1 of the rebuild since they didn't decide to rebuild until 1-2 seasons in.

You're asking for a half-ass rebuild so that it wouldn't hurt as bad. The Carl Peterson way. I'm shocked that your main complaint is that we went nuclear on the roster. There are a lot of people on CP who hate Herm and most of them agree that this was the right move. And if they accept that it was the right move, then your argument that we should have been at least competitive by year 3 is totally unrealistic.

I suggest you start paying attention to Jacksonville. If that team finds a QB, that's a dangerous team. And they're going to get better and better and better. That's what happens when you rebuild the right way.
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Old 11-30-2017, 07:13 PM   #6
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Heh, I think I may send Buehler445 an ASU hat...
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Old 11-30-2017, 07:19 PM   #7
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Heh, I think I may send Buehler445 an ASU hat...


I’ll split the $ with you.
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Old 11-30-2017, 08:13 PM   #8
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Heh, I think I may send Buehler445 an ASU hat...
I’m actually rooting for him to get it so I don’t have to hear his stupid ass on the radio anymore.
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Old 09-09-2018, 12:41 AM   #9
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Old 09-09-2018, 01:26 AM   #10
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He seemed to learn a lot being in the booth for 9 years. Go Team Herm
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Old 09-09-2018, 07:17 AM   #11
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I saw a clip of him coaching. He would be fun to play for because he teaches not all the yelling and old balls mcgee grumpy stupid shit.
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Old 09-09-2018, 09:15 AM   #12
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I’m sure the W was in spite of him.

I will give him credit for keeping the personnel - both coaches and players from bolting. He deserves credit for that.
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Old 09-09-2018, 09:29 AM   #14
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The team almost got blown out. They won, though. We'll see, but I expect ASU to be awful when the dust settles.
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I was hoping he would lose it in the 2nd half. Just like old times.
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