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Old 06-10-2022, 01:03 PM   #2
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I don’t understand how it’s propaganda when they don’t even mention what country the enemy is lol
Bro, it’s Iran. It is obvious.
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Old 06-10-2022, 01:17 PM   #3
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I don’t understand how it’s propaganda when they don’t even mention what country the enemy is lol
I know right
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Old 06-10-2022, 01:41 PM   #4
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I see so many complaints/shots on social media about this movie being war propaganda

It’s about as low on propaganda as a movie about the military could possibly be.
Cruise has said himself - it's a love letter to naval aviation.

And when you watch it - just...duh. Of course it is. It's a salute to sailors and aviators. There's a reason its first screening was on the deck of a carrier. He loves these dudes.

Is that propaganda? I mean, I guess if you have sand in your vag. Remember, the concept of 'public relations' didn't exist until Edward Bernays decided that 'propaganda' had developed a negative connotation as a term of art. So he came up with a new one.

So if you use 'PR' as the proxy for 'propaganda' as it was originally intended - oh sure, why not. Yeah, if that's what you wanna call it, you can.

And is it pro-military? Um...yes. Very obviously.

Y'know what? Good. Jesus - has the entire country turned into disaffected twats? Are we a nation of 350 million Janine Garofalos?

Christ I hope not.

Yes - we absolutely still have a place in the world for 'rah rah, go USA!' movies. In fact in many ways we've had a gaping void in that area for years. I'm not going to pretend this is something that it isn't and don't feel compelled to anyway.

I mean - there's a group of people that spend a lot of time running away from the most obvious labels one could put on them - and weirdly, it's the same people who insist we run away from this. Projection; the same thing we always see from...uh...this group of people.
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Old 06-10-2022, 01:25 PM   #5
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I mean the only real alternative would be some sort of Western Russian separatist state splintering off and going rogue. Or Eastern European having a Russian puppet government who is then supplied with Iranian F-14s. But even then you’d launch an attack from a ground base somewhere, not a carrier.

It has to be Iran.
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Old 06-10-2022, 01:28 PM   #6
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I don’t like Iran at all.
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Man, some of these look to be in (predictably) dreadful shape.





Others appear to have been upgraded fairly recently





In fact, I think that last photo is the same jet with a new livery as the 2nd photo; both appear to be tail#3-6039

Man, 6050 has seen better days...
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6066 here appears fairly middle of the road.



Honestly, you could convince me that 6050 is the one that Maverick actually flew in that movie. Thing doesn't even look airworthy.
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Old 06-10-2022, 04:39 PM   #9
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I don’t understand how it’s propaganda when they don’t even mention what country the enemy is lol
Does it matter when a white middle aged protagonist saves the day in a machine made for war? That's going to royally trigger a horde of low IQ morons looking to bitch about something on twitter.
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Old 06-10-2022, 06:29 PM   #10
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There is a F-4 Phantom peaking behind the F-14 in the first photo.

I wonder how they keep those TF30's running in the F-14.
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Old 06-10-2022, 07:14 PM   #11
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There is a F-4 Phantom peaking behind the F-14 in the first photo.

I wonder how they keep those TF30's running in the F-14.
Good eye.

You ever see these unnecessarily fancy paper airplanes called WhiteWings? It was a big envelop/book think full of paperboard think snapout sheets and I seem to remember balsa wood in there as well.

You’d assemble them and the kit came with 10-15 planes. One of them was the Phantom. I always felt like that thing just looked fast. They had an F15, F16, P51, Concorde, Wright flyer, all kinds of cool little largely disposable models to build.

So of course I’d get a pack of 15, build ‘em in a day and just annoy the hell out of my parents who figured it would keep me busy for at least a week or 2.
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Good eye.

You ever see these unnecessarily fancy paper airplanes called WhiteWings? It was a big envelop/book think full of paperboard think snapout sheets and I seem to remember balsa wood in there as well.

You’d assemble them and the kit came with 10-15 planes. One of them was the Phantom. I always felt like that thing just looked fast. They had an F15, F16, P51, Concorde, Wright flyer, all kinds of cool little largely disposable models to build.

So of course I’d get a pack of 15, build ‘em in a day and just annoy the hell out of my parents who figured it would keep me busy for at least a week or 2.
Hell yeah!

If you want to go down a rabbit hole, read about the F-4X. Mach 2.4 cruise and Mach 3.2 burst. It could outrun a Mig-25.



https://avgeekery.com/the-mach-3-f-4-phantom/
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Old 06-10-2022, 07:20 PM   #13
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Found it!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/154583310290

This was my favorite kit but in the early 90s they made a TON of them.
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He's a great actor, and hasn't just done big budget blockbuster stuff. It's kind of surprising that he's never won an Oscar.
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