***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Nickhead

I was pondering today. Given all the bushfires we had thru the summer, did that tamp down a mass infection here in Australia? I would think with the dramatic drop of chinese 'tourists' during the fires helped mitigate a NYC type scenario in Sydney, to this point?

Or maybe...you Aussies created this...and you have the antidote...


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[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Na, he's cranky that I booted him from the SpaceX thread for being obnoxious.

Ah, gotcha. I see him dropping random conspiracy theory stuff quite a bit and thought that was another one of them.

[Nickhead]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Interesting take. You certainly found the silver lining.

As of Dec 21st I was at Sydney airport. At first I was irritated by a particular segment of the population, wearing masks. I thought it was due to the smoke. With the virus starting in and around November, I realized some of them knew in advance the virus was spreading.

But yeah, it's so ironic the nations worst bushfire in modern times, could turn out to be a good thing?

ETA: That said, the caveat is we are coming into flu season here. So there is that!

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

There is a possibility that they aren't including commercial labs; that would be the only explanation I could imagine....

Those numbers look way off. Someone posted recently that Mizzou had testing facilities that had tested 1300+ already in Columbia. I take all the numbers with a grain of salt but the testing numbers appear (in all cases not just this one) to be the most unreliable.

[oaklandhater]

9/11 marked the end of the 1990s.
COVID-19 will mark the end of the 2010s.

— Infinite Possibilities (@SaturninoBrian) March 27, 2020

[oaklandhater]

It looks even worse when you extend the timeline out to see the normal ebb and flow of the typical flu season. This is for 65+. pic.twitter.com/x605B1o2DP

— Afferent Input (@afferent_input) March 27, 2020

should end any one trying to compare to the flu ever again.

[Bugeater]

Dr Oaklandhater, an anxious country awaits your response...

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Dr Oaklandhater, an anxious country awaits your response...

have I made any medical opinions ?

you ****ing asshole.

I keep waiting for our country to treat this like it's real instead of pretending we are in a bad flu season.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

US passed 500,000 test mark today

https://covidtracking.com/us-daily/

The US processed 101,000 tests today. Of which 83,000 were negative.

This probably means less of our population has it than many think, and that it is deadlier than we think.

One good thing, one bad thing.

[oaklandhater]

china sold some shit tests


Spain, Europe's worst-hit country after Italy, says coronavirus tests it bought from China are failing to detect positive cases

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/c...20-3?r=US&IR=T

[ChiliConCarnage]

Boris Johnson tests positive. That outta shake things up a bit.

Also, Id never seen his real full name before. Good call going with Bojo. I'm not sure Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson would have gathered many votes from the common folk.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

There is a possibility that they aren't including commercial labs; that would be the only explanation I could imagine....

They stopped including the number of negatives on the DHSS website quite some time ago. I think it has been since at least Monday since that number has been updated.

[POND_OF_RED]

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

KS has tested 3x as many people as MO.

KS: Total tests= 3,037: 168 positive/2,869 negative

MO: Total tests= 871: 502 positive/369 negative

Edit: Link to the data--https://covidtracking.com/data/#MO

Looks like Kansas is either full of wasteful health care centers or hypochondriacs.

[SuperBowl4]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Ah, gotcha. I see him dropping random conspiracy theory stuff quite a bit and thought that was another one of them.

Name one "random conspiracy theory" I dropped?

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by eDave

If this goes on long for much longer, that's exactly what I'm going to look like. I will probably be regretting not getting a haircut when I had a chance.