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Old 01-25-2021, 10:51 AM   #2
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About half come from the TOP TEN. We're not trading up that high.

The next 25% or so come in around 22-32 in the first. That's always possible.

The last 25% or so come from everywhere else, although the vast majority come in the 2nd round.

If you really want to pick up an OT, the best value move would like to be to trade DOWN, take one in the high 2nd and get back some picks.
so which is it? am I DUMB for saying take one late in the first/early second or not? I'm confused.

I literally posted a mock in which I moved down into the upper second and took Mayfield. So both of my thoughts on the matter you indicate here are total possibilities; yet you previously called me stupid for saying we probably need to look at OT with our first pick.
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Old 01-25-2021, 08:21 AM   #3
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Well, this thread became a lot more relevant in a hurry.

If it is a torn achilles (which it sounds like), then Fisher wouldn't even be able to play back to 'Fisher level' till 2022.

Niang coming back helps, but at this point we don't if he's anything more than a JAG or a guy that can actually hold down a starting T spot in the pros competently. IMO, they need to look to FA for a 'bargain' that they can maybe get on a short term deal and also draft one early.

Maybe they get lucky and Mitch comes back next year and is 100% but I'm not holding my breath. Those back injuries are bitches. Ruined John Alt's career. Likely Mitch is either done (as a premier tackle, anyway) or will retire. Fisher I would offer a team friendly extension too. I think he wants to stay and they might be able to get a 'bargain' for him now, due to the injury. He'll obviously be out for 2021, but assuming he progresses normally he should be back and ready to go strong for 2022. Yeah, it's a bit of a risk, but low cap # first year (next year) and then you'd still have him for under market value as the rest of the contract works out. If he's willing to do that, which I think he might be. I think he wants to spend his whole career here. He's mentioned something about it before and who wouldn't want to block for Mahomes knowing he gives you a chance to get to the Bowl every year. I think he stays.

We already needed to give some strong consideration to tackle this off-season. Now we're REALLY gonna have to devote some resources to it.

It is what it is.
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Old 01-25-2021, 08:33 AM   #4
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I don't think you can give Fisher an extension until you see him on the field.

Remmers, all of a sudden, becomes a must-re-sign this offseason.
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Old 01-25-2021, 08:54 AM   #5
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I'd put Niang at LT, look for another RT.

Usually, LT's have to come from pretty early in the draft sadly.
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Old 01-25-2021, 09:03 AM   #6
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I'd put Niang at LT, look for another RT.

Usually, LT's have to come from pretty early in the draft sadly.
While I don't disagree with any of this, a kid like Jalen Mayfield is an interesting prospect. I think if he had one more college season he'd likely end up going high in the first. As it is, I think he's a late first/very early 2nd.

Niang I loved when they drafted him; and I kind of think this opt-out was a medical red-shirt for him to heal the hip injury, I really doubt that Veach and Reid were caught off-guard.

Anyway, I'm uncomfortable just handing him the spot. And at any rate, we're going to need TWO offensive tackles just to tread water.

And could use an upgrade or two inside too, especially considering Reiter's a FA and I think Wylie is too?

They don't have to be round one, but typically good OT's come there.
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Old 01-25-2021, 08:58 AM   #7
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Outside the box thinking, would you look around and see if someone might trade you a LT for 32?

Say if the Lions wanna rebuild fully, see if they'd trade you Decker for 32 and maybe next years 3rd or the Bienemy 3rd?
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Old 01-25-2021, 12:02 PM   #8
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Outside the box thinking, would you look around and see if someone might trade you a LT for 32?

Say if the Lions wanna rebuild fully, see if they'd trade you Decker for 32 and maybe next years 3rd or the Bienemy 3rd?
Absolutely on the table, in my opinion.

We actually have a direct precedent for this with Brett Veach.
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Old 01-25-2021, 12:04 PM   #9
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Absolutely on the table, in my opinion.

We actually have a direct precedent for this with Brett Veach.
Gotta think they'd want more than that for Decker but if they'd do it, you jump at the chance. Still young.
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Gotta think they'd want more than that for Decker but if they'd do it, you jump at the chance. Still young.
A 1st and throw in a few kneecaps.
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A 1st and throw in a few kneecaps.
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A 1st and throw in a few kneecaps.
That should definitely give them something to chew on.
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I think you could get creative and possibly trade 32 for a currently established LT if you had to. Wonder what the Eagles plans with Dillard are?
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Could Remmers fill in at LT until Fisher comes back? Re-sign Remmers and figure out RT.
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Could Remmers fill in at LT until Fisher comes back? Re-sign Remmers and figure out RT.
The only problem is that Fisher's contract only had 1 year left on it.

They could easily go with a stop gap if Fisher were back in 2022 but as of right now, that's only happening if he signs an extension, during an injury year.
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