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Old 07-23-2019, 02:58 PM  
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***OFFICIAL 2019 Chiefs Training Camp Thread***



In the meantime, this gem from Andy Reid's press conference today:


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Old 07-26-2019, 11:43 AM   #256
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Honestly I think Hardman could be the 3rd receiver by mid season if he’s given a fair shot
He might be, but for a team that is going to lean on the offense you don't want to be in a position where you have 1 WR with game experience.
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Old 07-26-2019, 11:45 AM   #257
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If you're looking for guys that could be traded off the Chiefs roster...

Xavier Williams
Justin Hamilton
Tremon Smith
Lucas/Sorensen

Are your most likely bets, Colquitt could go on that list if the rookie punter beats him out soundly.
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Honestly I think Hardman could be the 3rd receiver by mid season if he’s given a fair shot
I don't think that's what Reid wants.

Tyreek was fantastic stretching the defense horizontally. When Reid began using him more traditionally, having him stretch vertically, he lost SOME of that horizontal element. You obviously can't have Tyreek doing two things at once.

DaT was suppose to be that guy, and every offseason they talked up DAT's special packages, and you did in fact see them on gameday. Though he obviously wasn't quite as effective (though effective at times) and couldn't stay healthy.

I think Reid wants to use Hardman to bring back that special ability to stretch horizontally. Force defenses to respect the jet sweeps, fakes, reverses etc even MORESO than they already do by putting a true play maker back there again.

Just look at Hardman's quote the other day for example. They asked Hardman how Tyreek being back changes things for him and he answered something like, "It doesn't change anything i'm doing. Still the same plan moving forward".

My impression was that Hardman has a specific job, and it was never to take Tyreek's role in this offense, but to work on his specific role that Reid has set out for him all along.
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Old 07-26-2019, 11:51 AM   #259
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He might be, but for a team that is going to lean on the offense you don't want to be in a position where you have 1 WR with game experience.
Really depends on camp IMO. Pringle and Dieter know the offense well and are not rookies. They could show enough to fill D-Rob’s role.

I’m also curious to see Custis. That guy is 6’4, runs a 4.5 and has arms as long as a tackle’s. We don’t have any receiver like him.

Give him Kemp’s spot and see how he does in preseason. Could be a nice possession receiver.
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Dieter is going to have to make the team, he would be the 6th WR.
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610 just reported that Jones will report to camp today and will not hold out. He’ll play out his deal if need be. Per Adam Schefter.

Way to go, Chris!!! You’re doing it right. Let’s ****ing go.
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I don't think that's what Reid wants.

Tyreek was fantastic stretching the defense horizontally. When Reid began using him more traditionally, having him stretch vertically, he lost SOME of that horizontal element. You obviously can't have Tyreek doing two things at once.

DaT was suppose to be that guy, and every offseason they talked up DAT's special packages, and you did in fact see them on gameday. Though he obviously wasn't quite as effective (though effective at times) and couldn't stay healthy.

I think Reid wants to use Hardman to bring back that special ability to stretch horizontally. Force defenses to respect the jet sweeps, fakes, reverses etc even MORESO than they already do by putting a true play maker back there again.

Just look at Hardman's quote the other day for example. They asked Hardman how Tyreek being back changes things for him and he answered something like, "It doesn't change anything i'm doing. Still the same plan moving forward".

My impression was that Hardman has a specific job, and it was never to take Tyreek's role in this offense, but to work on his specific role that Reid has set out for him all along.
Great post. I agree with all of this.
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Old 07-26-2019, 11:57 AM   #263
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Y'all see the clip of McKenzie coming into camp?

Man, I'm unreasonably pumped about that kid. I know we're probably still a year early on him but that dude is just built to be a lineman. He looks like he's in great shape and still has an incredibly powerful base.

I don't think he wins a job this year but I don't think it's impossible and I absolutely think he spends some games on the active roster this time around. I'm awfully excited to see what he can do because he has tools that just jump off the page and if the development is there he can be a truly elite OL.

All gonna come down to teaching him how to use his hands and maintain his base. A lot of toolsy OL have been felled by an inability to stop reaching and stay over top of their feet. That's gonna be a heck of a learning curve for him but if he can get it done, watch out.
He’s been working 1 on 1 with Will Shields on technique for part of this offseason. They’ve shown some of it on the franchise.

He needs to get on the field this year though, or else KC is going to develop him and not get much equity value out of it and he will need a big contract before we get any ROI.
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610 just reported that Jones will report to camp today and will not hold out. He’ll play out his deal if need be. Per Adam Schefter.

Way to go, Chris!!! You’re doing it right. Let’s ****ing go.
Yeah!!!!!

This is our year. Let's do it.
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