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**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

Garcia Bronco · 09-19-2011, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

The ACC is terrible at football. They are better than the Big East, but not by a lot.

Wrong.

**Saul Good** · 09-19-2011, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Wrong.

What teams in the ACC have been worth a shit over the past decade?

Garcia Bronco · 09-19-2011, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Dude you are joking are just crazy.

ACC football is FSU, Miami, Va Tech, and a bunch of nobodies. FSU has been mediocre since the 90's (getting better now), Miami has been off an on since the NC game in the early 00's.

SEC, Big 12, and Big Ten have CLEARLY been better. No contest really.

Nope.

Ocassionally the Big 12 or PAC 10 is better, but never over the past ten years has the Big 10 been better. Their football product sucks. The only team I wouldn't want to play in that entire conference is IOWA and Wis. The rest is trash from another century. OSU getting passess in that conference has been nothing short of a giant joke perpetuated on the masses. Playing in that weakass conference, going undefeated, and getting destroyed like a hihg school team in the NC game. LOL

Garcia Bronco · 09-19-2011, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

What teams in the ACC have been worth a shit over the past decade?

Virginia Tech has obviously been the best in conference and one of the top teams in the nation for over the past 15 years. In fact last season they completed their 7, 10 plus win season in-a-row.

Miami is a tought team to beat. If they got a QB they and FSU would be unstoppable. And Gerogai Tech is a tough team too with that triple option. Shit if FSU had a QB worth a crap they would have beat OU the other night.

Stewie · 09-19-2011, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Virginia Tech has obviously been the best in conference and one of the top teams in the nation for over the past 15 years. In fact last season they completed their 7, 10 plus win season in-a-row.

Playing ACC scrubs.

**Saul Good** · 09-19-2011, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Nope.

Ocassionally the Big 12 or PAC 10 is better, but never over the past ten years has the Big 10 been better. Their football product sucks. The only team I wouldn't want to play in that entire conference is IOWA and Wis. The rest is trash from another century. OSU getting passess in that conference has been nothing short of a giant joke perpetuated on the masses. Playing in that weakass conference, going undefeated, and getting destroyed like a hihg school team in the NC game. LOL

Wisconsin, Michigan State, Ohio State, Iowa, Nebraska, and Penn State would all be top 3 teams in the ACC over the past decade.

Garcia Bronco · 09-19-2011, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Wisconsin, Michigan State, Ohio State, Iowa, Nebraska, and Penn State would all be top 3 teams in the ACC over the past decade.

Maybe.

Nebraska wouldn't or are you forgetting Bill Callahan. Penn State has had one really good season over the past decade. MSU...

. OSU....doubt it. They wouldn't go undefeated. Iowa though...Wisconsin...I'd take those teams.

**alnorth** · 09-19-2011, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

The decision by the UT regents is odd. They declined to give UT the authority to change conferences. They basically gave them the authority to either publicly announce that UT is staying in the Big 12, or come back again later to ask for permission to leave the Big 12 if UT doesn't think they can make it work.

bumping this so real news doesn't get missed in this dumb conference slap-fight.

UT to PAC 12 may not be a done deal at all.

Rams Fan · 09-19-2011, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Maybe.

Nebraska wouldn't or are you forgetting Bill Callahan. Penn State has had one really good season over the past decade. MSU...

. OSU....doubt it. They wouldn't go undefeated. Iowa though...Wisconsin...I'd take those teams.

tOSU wouldn't be better than any of the teams over the last decade in the ACC?

vailpass · 09-19-2011, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

What do you mean. They already have the best football schools on the entire Atlantic Coast that are available that have the academics to even be admitted.

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Bullshit.

They've been better than the Big 10, Big 12/Pac-10, and the Big East. Swap out the big 12 and pac 10 some years as things go up and down.

Big 10 and Big East football is a joke compared to the other conferences they are always last and at no time over the past ten years been better than the ACC top-to-bottom.

|Zach| · 09-19-2011, 04:50 PM

Lets not be silly.

vailpass · 09-19-2011, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

bumping this so yet another unsubstantiated rumor in a god-awful long string of unsubstantiated rumors doesn't get missed in this dumb conference slap-fight.

UT to PAC 12 may not be a done deal at all.

fyp

ArrowheadMagic · 09-19-2011, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

bumping this so real news doesn't get missed in this dumb conference slap-fight.

UT to PAC 12 may not be a done deal at all.

According to this,UT President received permission to start looking. As did OU's.

http://www.statesman.com/blogs/conte...s_give_po.html

vailpass · 09-19-2011, 04:54 PM

It is my understanding that my chocolate lab has been granted entrance to the Pac12 provided he can attain AAU status.

kstater · 09-19-2011, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadMagic

According to this,UT President received permission to start looking. As did OU's.

http://www.statesman.com/blogs/conte...s_give_po.html

This doesn't disprove what Alnorth said.

Quote:

Powers will work in consultation with a group of six people, including Regents chairman Gene Powell.
Any change in conference membership has to be submitted to the board to approve. Powers, however, wouldn’t need regents’ approval if he decides Texas should remain in the Big 12.

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Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Saulbadguy's Avatar Join Date: Nov 2003	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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