1917

[Monticore]

I thought it was great , had a different feel than other war movies because of the way it was shot but it also made me feel like I was walking with them the whole way, should have taken my puffer.

Monti

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by CarlosCarson88

Sounds disappointing

It’s not. It doesn’t try to be saving private Ryan. It’s not that it tries to do something different. And it does a great job.

[CarlosCarson27]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

It’s not. It doesn’t try to be saving private Ryan. It’s not that it tries to do something different. And it does a great job.

I'm not comparing it to a SPR . Just expecting some reality about war.
The promos make it sound so desperate and frightening. I would expect depiction of that.

Like..I saw some stupid movie last night about a Christian soldier who wouldn't use a gun but he saved a bunch of soldiers over a ridge /mountain. Totally stupid movie. Like Disney war movie stupid lol.. .oh, yeah, it was called Hacksaw Ridge, I think

[BigBeauford]

If I had to choose, I would rather live in a world where 1917 existed instead of SPR.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by BigBeauford

If I had to choose, I would rather live in a world where 1917 existed instead of SPR.

Unfortunately. Either one is really unreasonable historically.

[CarlosCarson27]

I like period pieces and old uniforms/ wardrobe

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by CarlosCarson88

I like period pieces and old uniforms/ wardrobe

Watch 1917. It’s worth it

[BigBeauford]

Originally Posted by CarlosCarson88

I like period pieces and old uniforms/ wardrobe

I think it succeeds on describing the horrors of trench warfare without having to go "see, trench warfare is bad because". It really is a masterclass movie of audio-visual storytelling with gobs of tension throughout.

[Mennonite]

Outside of the awesome opening scene, I'm not that crazy about Saving Private Ryan.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Mennonite

Outside of the awesome opening scene, I'm not that crazy about Saving Private Ryan.

Yeah, the opening scene was great and the ending was great. The middle was fairly pedestrian.

1917 is a much better movie.

[JD10367]

Originally Posted by Mennonite

Outside of the awesome opening scene, I'm not that crazy about Saving Private Ryan.

The opening scene of "SPR" was shocking in its brutal portrayal of D-Day. I don't think most people had a true grasp of how bad that was. (But, yeah, the rest of "SPR" wasn't that great.) Likewise, I don't think most people have a true grasp of how bad WW1 was. "1917" shows it the same way as "SPR", with the only difference being that "1917" simply shows you the aftermath of trench warfare. This choice was probably made because a) "SPR" had already done the "horribly violent opening", and b) it's a lot cheaper SFX to show a bunch of corpses than a battle. But it works for "1917" because it shows you absolutely chewed up and large the battle lines were.

[CarlosCarson27]

Originally Posted by JD10367

The opening scene of "SPR" was shocking in its brutal portrayal of D-Day. I don't think most people had a true grasp of how bad that was. (But, yeah, the rest of "SPR" wasn't that great.) Likewise, I don't think most people have a true grasp of how bad WW1 was. "1917" shows it the same way as "SPR", with the only difference being that "1917" simply shows you the aftermath of trench warfare. This choice was probably made because a) "SPR" had already done the "horribly violent opening", and b) it's a lot cheaper SFX to show a bunch of corpses than a battle. But it works for "1917" because it shows you absolutely chewed up and large the battle lines were.

I never understood that.
how godam dumb do you have to be ,to not understand what war is?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by CarlosCarson88

I never understood that.
how godam dumb do you have to be ,to not understand what war is?

I think you can understand how awful war is and not understand "holy shit, people were literally getting stuck in the mud, sinking to their knees quickly and then up over their mouths/noses to drown very slowly..."

I think it's possible to get an understanding of the staggering raw numbers, especially the way they happened later in the war as the spring offensive and final 100 days yielded a style of warfare very similar to WW2. And I think many can even understand the grinding savagery and sense of awe that accompanied the Somme.

But shit like Passchendaele - I think very few people truly understand that. Or the interminable grind of it. I mean we think of 'battles' when we talk about warfare and even something like the Normandy invasion was largely over in a few days.

But we're talking months of conditions that simply weren't experienced before or since. Prior to WWI armies simply lacked the chin to be able to take those kinds of hits without being overwhelmed. One day like what you saw at Verdun and armies folded up their tents and the war was over. And after WWI they realized the folly of that style of warfare.

But that interim period where armies could take serious body blows, deal out serious body blows and yet neither side had the ability to do anything about it. That was a unique period and deserves a little extra attention, IMO.

[Mennonite]

I would like to see a modern version of All Quiet on the Western Front.