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Old 04-06-2022, 10:57 AM   #2
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The price is likely steep if you're talking DE. Just about everyone on the planet assumes the top 4 DEs are gone at 15. To get to 14 would take 29, 50, and a future 5th at minimum. I surely like Jermaine Johnson more than George Karlaftis but giving up 50 is going to be a tough sell around here.

I'm not giving shit up for any WRs. There's not a transcendent talent worth dumping that kind of capital for.
Exactly.
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Old 04-06-2022, 04:42 PM   #3
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Jermaine Johnson is impressive. And a ten yard split of 1.55. Wow.
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Old 04-06-2022, 09:14 PM   #4
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Jermaine Johnson is impressive. And a ten yard split of 1.55. Wow.
and the only guy worth trading up for but the price might be too steep
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Old 04-06-2022, 05:19 PM   #5
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Old 04-06-2022, 05:25 PM   #6
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Guess what guys. The QB makes the receiver. The receiver does not make the QB. Veach is signing everybody to 1 year deals because he is building through the draft . You can expect Veach to make his pick at 29 and trade 30 for more picks.
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Old 04-06-2022, 05:58 PM   #7
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Guess what guys. The QB makes the receiver. The receiver does not make the QB. Veach is signing everybody to 1 year deals because he is building through the draft . You can expect Veach to make his pick at 29 and trade 30 for more picks.
I am thinking a QB needy team like Detroit will trade back into the 1st to get a 5th year on a QB like Howell.
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Old 04-06-2022, 06:05 PM   #8
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Credit to Pest in the lounge.


Would you give up next years 1 and 29 to get up high enough to take Johnson?
No.

Pests plan sucks.
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Old 04-06-2022, 06:06 PM   #9
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No.

Pests plan sucks.
No ****ing way KC trades their 2023 1st when hosting the draft..
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Old 04-06-2022, 06:43 PM   #10
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Am I missing something with Johnson? He looks okay, but nothing special for this being a highlight video.
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Old 04-07-2022, 12:53 AM   #11
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Am I missing something with Johnson? He looks okay, but nothing special for this being a highlight video.
He's very good imo, but people have lost their minds over him and basically rejecting all other trade ups.
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Old 04-07-2022, 04:37 AM   #12
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He's very good imo, but people have lost their minds over him and basically rejecting all other trade ups.
I was expecting more for a highlight video. Against ND, he looks slow off the snap. Maybe it's the scheme. Read and react or something. There are three running plays in the film where he is unblocked. Not hard to shine in those. Against Boston College and Jacksonville State, he looks the best, but not sure those Tackles he was going against were very good at all.

But then again, he is not being talked about as the #1 overall pick in the draft, but maybe the 4th or 5th DE off the board. Just not sure I am seeing enough to spend a ton of draft capital to move up to 11-13 range to get him.

Hopefully it is just the scheme that makes him look tentative off the snap at times.
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Old 04-07-2022, 07:45 AM   #13
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Am I missing something with Johnson? He looks okay, but nothing special for this being a highlight video.
I'm with ya.

Like I said - giving up the same thing we gave up to get Mahomes so we can go grab DE3 and probably DL6 is just kinda crazy to me.

He's fine. I don't see him as orders of magnitude more likely to be an excellent player than Karlaftis or even Thomas. And less likely to be truly great than Ojabo.

I don't see any reason at all to go crazy for the guy.
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Old 04-07-2022, 03:37 PM   #14
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I'm with ya.

Like I said - giving up the same thing we gave up to get Mahomes so we can go grab DE3 and probably DL6 is just kinda crazy to me.

He's fine. I don't see him as orders of magnitude more likely to be an excellent player than Karlaftis or even Thomas. And less likely to be truly great than Ojabo.

I don't see any reason at all to go crazy for the guy.
He's a much better DE than Ojabo and way better than Karlaftis or Thomas in terms of complete package. Kid is legit and the only guy I think that ends up better in the NFL is Hutchinson.
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This is gonna shock you guys to your core.

I don't wanna trade up. Don't chase high impact players. Just stock the team with good players. Develop them into that type of guy if you can.
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