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Old 10-25-2020, 07:50 PM  
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It’s official: Pats were always Tom Brady. Not Bill Belichick.
Bill falls to 2-4 without Brady.

Brady goes to 5-2 with Tampa, turning them into a title contender immediately.

Tampa had the #1 SRS (points above avg team) in the NFL of +13.1. And that was before they trashed the Fighting Chuckies today.
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Old 10-26-2020, 01:53 PM   #136
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I guess we'll see, won't we?

BB ain't winning shit without Brady.
Ok. I don't think either one of them are winning shit. So how will we decide then?

Shit= Super bowl. Which you established as the argument
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Old 10-26-2020, 01:54 PM   #137
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Ok. I don't think either one of them are winning shit. So how will we decide then?
Good question.
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Old 10-26-2020, 01:59 PM   #138
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I guess we'll see, won't we?

BB ain't winning shit without Brady.
Well, no one didn't know that to begin with. I mean as far as getting to another SB is concerned. The extreme glory days are over, that's a given. It's been 20 years.long enough and aged out of the race.
Just a silly pointless sports debate all around. Together they won. Now apart they'll lose. Maybe inside or outside of playoffs, but still lose.
No more super bowls for either of them.
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Old 10-26-2020, 02:13 PM   #139
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Bill is a great coach. Above average GM except when it comes to draft selections which is below average and unfortunately is a big part of the job. Some of his problem is drafting last every year, your not getting the can't miss prospects.

Also I think Bill has 8 rigs counting the 2 he got with the Giants.
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Old 10-26-2020, 02:18 PM   #140
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Bill is a great coach. Above average GM except when it comes to draft selections which is below average and unfortunately is a big part of the job. Some of his problem is drafting last every year, your not getting the can't miss prospects.

Also I think Bill has 8 rigs counting the 2 he got with the Giants.
Lots of coordinators made it to and won Super Bowls. Todd Haley went to a Super Bowl.
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Old 10-26-2020, 02:19 PM   #141
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Bill is a great coach. Above average GM except when it comes to draft selections which is below average and unfortunately is a big part of the job. Some of his problem is drafting last every year, your not getting the can't miss prospects.

Also I think Bill has 8 rigs counting the 2 he got with the Giants.
New thread- Yeahhhhh mannnnn, Parcells was nothing without Belichick , mannnnn.
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Old 10-26-2020, 02:33 PM   #142
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It’s also worth mentioning BB didn’t start Brady over Bledsoe. He got hurt which is why Brady even played. It’s conceivable Bledsoe could’ve been their starter a few of those early years and Brady might’ve been Garoppolo’d off to another team.
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Old 10-26-2020, 02:54 PM   #143
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The Bucs offense was 23rd in DVOA last year (-7.4%). They were 7th (9.2%) before the Raiders game this year.



So no, the offense has vastly improved.
They led the league in passing yards and were tied for 3rd in scoring. Like I said, Winston was a major reason why they weren't more successful. Turnovers kill an offense.
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Old 10-26-2020, 02:57 PM   #144
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Peyton was benched during the season that year. He threw something like 9 tds and 17 ints during the regular season. Go die on some other hill.

You could probably convince me russell Wilson won with a shit coach but even then I think the defense carried that team more than wilson did that season. And if you presented me that one as an example I'd tell you foles won the super bowl more recently due to coaching more so than qb talent.
Are you trying to say Pete Carroll is a shit coach?
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Old 10-26-2020, 03:04 PM   #145
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Belichick has a losing record as a HC without Tom Brady.
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Belichick has a losing record as a HC without Tom Brady.
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Are you trying to say Pete Carroll is a shit coach?
Well, those usc championships were taken away.....
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Brady went to a team already with big talent and then they went super nova with FA's. There's no team in the NFC that will knock them out. If we make it we play them. Only hope is somehow they don't win the divison but that is not looking likely at the moment.
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Tampa has a lot more top tier talent due to picking at the top of every round for almost a decade. Patriots talent was gathered from drafting at the bottom of every round for a decade.
Regular season wins against mediocre teams doesn't mean shit when you are comparing these two. It has to be Super Bowls.
Brady is light years ahead of Cam. Bill is lights years ahead of Arians.
Anyone trying to compare and contrast Tom and Bill after this small of a sampling is doing both a disservice and is just trying to start shit. It is PB so I am not surprised.
This is a normal PB thread. Just like we all know how a Deberg thread is also.

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Are you trying to say Pete Carroll is a shit coach?
I have one of the best QB's in the league, let me repeatedly run the ball until we are in big trouble then I'll just let my star qb do his thing in the 4th quarter to bail us out.

Yeah, I'd say I could be convinced he's not very good.
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