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Old 04-19-2024, 09:41 AM   #2
MagicHef MagicHef is offline
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I can see them having a test system or analyzer to make this kind of swap fair to both parties. I know on lead/acid batteries it exists but am not familiar with the technology on these new batteries.
I recently bought a lithium battery for the Jetski and it is much different.
Yeah, you can test the health of batteries. On cars.com, they report the battery health for the used EVs.
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Old 04-19-2024, 12:47 PM   #3
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I can see them having a test system or analyzer to make this kind of swap fair to both parties. I know on lead/acid batteries it exists but am not familiar with the technology on these new batteries.
I recently bought a lithium battery for the Jetski and it is much different.
For this system to work, the car owner would no longer own the batteries at all.

Either the battery swap company would have to own them. Or some third party would.

The car owner would pay a rental or lease on the batteries. So if they got bad batteries, it wouldn't matter as far as swapping. Now it would suck as far as not getting the range you were promised.

Maybe the lease could include a guarantee that the swapped in batteries will be so good, or so good on average over the course of the year.
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Old 04-19-2024, 03:51 PM   #4
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I can see them having a test system or analyzer to make this kind of swap fair to both parties. I know on lead/acid batteries it exists but am not familiar with the technology on these new batteries.
I recently bought a lithium battery for the Jetski and it is much different.
I can imagine the theft rings of people stealing batteries will pop up and sell them on the black market or swap n shops. Or people with evs renting a car and swapping batteries. I am sure more rental companies will keep getting rid of their stocks.

Will be interesting to see how they go about the battery issue and swapping.
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Old 04-19-2024, 06:22 PM   #5
Chief Pagan Chief Pagan is offline
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I can imagine the theft rings of people stealing batteries will pop up and sell them on the black market or swap n shops. Or people with evs renting a car and swapping batteries. I am sure more rental companies will keep getting rid of their stocks.

Will be interesting to see how they go about the battery issue and swapping.
Yea, there would probably have to be a way to electronically scan to make sure the car owner returned the same batteries that were put in.

But I'm not very convinced battery swapping is ever going to be a thing. Super fast charging that gets you ~80% or something in a reasonable time strikes me as more likely.
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Old 04-19-2024, 06:54 PM   #6
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Yea, there would probably have to be a way to electronically scan to make sure the car owner returned the same batteries that were put in.



But I'm not very convinced battery swapping is ever going to be a thing. Super fast charging that gets you ~80% or something in a reasonable time strikes me as more likely.
Agreed. Charging won't ever be as fast as fueling, but they're getting it fast enough to be bearable for most people.
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