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Old 03-01-2024, 09:06 AM   Topic Starter
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Report: NFL tested technology to track 1st downs during games including Super Bowl

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The NFL’s use of technology may finally be used to determine first downs.

Multiple reports out of the NFL Scouting Combine on Thursday noted the league tested technology to track first downs during multiple games this past season, including Super Bowl LVIII between the Kansas City Chiefs and San Francisco 49ers.

While the optical technology is reportedly not ready to be used for the 2024 season, it could very well be implemented when it is.

If approved, one of the more outdated happenings in sports – sideline chain crews being used – would be obsolete. Despite the use of replay technology and more in the NFL, the league continuously uses chain crews.

Considering how vital first downs are during NFL games, it is fair to say everyone would agree taking the human error part out of determining whether a team picked up a new set of downs would be great.

What the technology is exactly remains to be seen, but it is a truth that the NFL has had the ability to track the football during games. It is used for their Next Gen Stats, and the league says a tracking system is installed at every stadium.

However, the technology is only used for analytics purposes – not to determine downs or anything else in the game.

The technology does not, however, determine when a player is down, whether it be by elbow, knee or any other body part.

Still, players, coaches and everyone involved would likely be open to technology that determines the position of the football instead of going based off an eye test, which can be reviewed by coach’s challenge.

When the technology could possibly be available for use during regular-season games remains to be seen, but it is certainly something to look out for as the league continues to adapt to modern times.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nfl-t...super-bowl.amp
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Old 03-01-2024, 09:13 AM   #2
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Really? They better ****ing R&D that shit some more.
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Old 03-01-2024, 09:16 AM   #3
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Really? They better ****ing R&D that shit some more.
They have been.

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Multiple reports out of the NFL Scouting Combine on Thursday noted the league tested technology to track first downs during multiple games this past season, including Super Bowl LVIII between the Kansas City Chiefs and San Francisco 49ers.
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Old 03-01-2024, 09:27 AM   #4
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They have been.
Didn't seem to help late in the game when they shorted KC on spots several times down the stretch.
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Old 03-01-2024, 09:38 AM   #5
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Didn't seem to help late in the game when they shorted KC on spots several times down the stretch.
I think they were just "using" the tech to compare how the humans fared. They weren't actually using it to spot the ball.
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Old 03-01-2024, 11:10 AM   #6
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Didn't seem to help late in the game when they shorted KC on spots several times down the stretch.
The critical 4th down run by Mahomes shouldn't have even been necessary. Im glad it all worked out the way it did though.
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Old 03-01-2024, 09:15 AM   #7
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Old 03-01-2024, 09:23 AM   #8
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Should be easy to put sensors in the nose of the football and see how far the nose achieved on each down.

Difficult part would be to make sensors that could handle the abuse of the football including kicking it.
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Old 03-01-2024, 09:35 AM   #9
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Difficult part would be to make sensors that could handle the abuse of the football including kicking it.
A small chip inside a soft air filled football cushioning it should not be difficult at all. I've had fitbits, earbuds, and other various electronics take far more of a beating falling multiple stories, bouncing off concrete and working just fine. I imagine the biggest force a chip inside a football would face would be when the kicker clanks an extra point off the upright.

Too bad Mythbusters is not still around to look into the matter.
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Old 03-01-2024, 09:38 AM   #10
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Should be easy to put sensors in the nose of the football and see how far the nose achieved on each down.

Difficult part would be to make sensors that could handle the abuse of the football including kicking it.
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Didn't seem to help late in the game when they shorted KC on spots several times down the stretch.
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The technology is pretty shitty if they used it in the Super bowl. We must have had at least 5 instances where they spotted us short.
It doesn't tell the refs where to spot the ball, only if it is a first down based on where the refs decide to place it.

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Old 03-01-2024, 09:41 AM   #11
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It doesn't tell the refs where to spot the ball, only if it is a first down based on where the refs decide to place it.
That sounds logical.
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Old 03-01-2024, 09:42 AM   #12
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It doesn't tell the refs where to spot the ball, only if it is a first down based on where the refs decide to place it.
Which seems like an easy thing they could have done years ago. I'm not all that familiar with what tech they're planning to use here, but it'd be pretty easy to put a laser in the first down marker and turn it on when they need to make a "measurement" rather than taking 2-3 minutes for the chain gang tome out and do their thing.
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Old 03-01-2024, 10:08 AM   #13
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It doesn't tell the refs where to spot the ball, only if it is a first down based on where the refs decide to place it.
Can we put a chip in them?
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Old 03-01-2024, 10:17 AM   #14
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It doesn't tell the refs where to spot the ball, only if it is a first down based on where the refs decide to place it.
That's even more reeruned. A "technical innovation" that will pinpoint exactly where the 70 year old geriatric referees determine the ball should be placed. If you're going to use tech do it properly and take out the refs being ****ing blind and stupid factor instead.
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Old 03-01-2024, 10:22 AM   #15
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That's even more reeruned. A "technical innovation" that will pinpoint exactly where the 70 year old geriatric referees determine the ball should be placed. If you're going to use tech do it properly and take out the refs being ****ing blind and stupid factor instead.
I have yet to hear how anyone thinks a chip in a ball can tell you when (or if) a player's knee was down.
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