Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-19-2024, 11:15 AM  
gordonelloyd gordonelloyd is offline
Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2023
What’s our biggest challenge for a 3peat?

Maybe this post should wait until after the draft, but I thought I would do it now. I hope it’s not too long.

The Chiefs have improved. We won at our worst last year and definitely this year we will be better, but probably not by a significant amount. Our WR room will definitely be better with the addition of brown, irrespective of what happens with rice. And if Rice and the draft work out, it could be much better. The rest of our offence should be about the same. RB looks solid assuming Pacheco stays relatively healthy. We have adequate back up after we resign McKinnon [I don’t think we’ve done that yet] and from the draft late rounds. The O line should be about the same good enough level and could be slightly better. That’s Assuming Morris improves a bit, we resign Smith, Taylor continues to manage his penalties better, and we get somebody who sits and learns from the draft, rather than being able to trade up for a starter left tackle. If we could get a good left tackle starter from the draft our O line would improve substantially. At TE I think Smith will be a surprisingly good back up for Kelce and we may use double tight ends more.

Our defence should stay elite with the only problem being replacing a Sneed, but we have enough depth to do that, although I expect it will hurt us in games were opponents have two elite receivers like Miami, Cincinnati, Philadelphia, and San Francisco. And Houston might fit in here too.

In terms of teams, we have to worry about the biggest question is who has a QB that can match Mahomes, if both of them have A games.

I think that’s only Buffalo and Cincinnati and maybe Houston.

I think we can discount Buffalo as the loss of Diggs will be insurmountable. Losing Poyer will also hurt. Also, they haven’t done much in free agency. And it doesn’t look like the team is very well run and or coached.

Cincinnati is my biggest fear. I think they are going to get bowers in the draft and that will more than make up for the loss of Boyd. They have a very easy schedule, especially compared to the other teams in their division, and that will somewhat offset the disadvantages of playing in their very tough division compared to ours. I know there are many Orlando Brown haters on this board, but I think he improved their O line last year, and adding Trent Brown this year should be another improvement. The big question is if they can keep Burrows healthy. If so, they have the offence and an improved defence [more experience at DB and signing stone, and Bell] that can challenge Kansas City TO THE POINT WHERE THE GAMES ARE A TOSSUP. AND I REALLY THINK LOSING SNEED WILL HURT US HERE.

Although Jackson, Purdy , and Hurst are not in the same elite tier QB class, those teams are also of some concern, although not really very much in my view except for San Francisco.

I think Philadelphia is dysfunctional and will continue to implode. I doubt that Adding Henry is going to improve Baltimore very much and I think Jackson now has a reliable record of not winning the big games.

San Francisco will probably meet us again in the Super Bowl in their last opportunity before they lose OT Williams to retirement and some of their other elite players to salary cap once they start paying Purdy. It looks like they will pretty much be the same team as last year, and if they hadn’t lost Greenlaw to that fluke injury they might well have beaten us. It should be an It should be another down to the wire Super Bowl. Again, our loss of Sneed could be important in this game given their multiple elite receivers.

The only other team to be concerned about is Houston if they and Stroud continue their meteoric rise. But I think that’s unlikely and also they won’t be facing a last place schedule this time around. Adding Diggs will be huge. If they had been able to sign Barkley instead of Mixon I would be more worried.

Anyway, that’s my two early view of the season ahead that I think will end up with a 3 peat.
Posts: 199
gordonelloyd ....proof positive that somebody pissed in the gene pool.gordonelloyd ....proof positive that somebody pissed in the gene pool.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2024, 12:19 PM   #16
Chief Pagan Chief Pagan is offline
Sometimes it's black and white
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: California
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Meck View Post
Health. Especially Mahomes.

A lengthy Rice suspension would make it difficult as well.
Yes, injuries are always a wild card.

I know you can't replace a motivated, healthy Chris Jones with two good players. But there is a tradeoff with having superstars and JAGs versus a bunch of really good players. If a really good player has one of those football injuries happen, it's not as big of hit to your season.
Posts: 6,190
Chief Pagan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief Pagan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief Pagan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief Pagan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief Pagan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief Pagan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief Pagan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief Pagan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief Pagan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief Pagan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Chief Pagan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
    Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2024, 12:23 PM   #17
TLO TLO is offline
Life is changing..
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: NW Missouri
Luck
Posts: 38,938
TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.TLO is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2024, 12:23 PM   #18
Wisconsin_Chief Wisconsin_Chief is online now
MVP
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
In all seriousness, the biggest challenge in front of them is simply the law of averages. The odds of winning 3 Super Bowls in a row are absurdly low. It takes an unbelievable combination of health, talent, execution, comradery, and focus to win one goddamn Super Bowl. Then to win another when we were, for all intents and purposes, rebuilding was just nonsense. So now to line up for 3 in a row? Man, it's a lot.

However, this organization is operating on a different level than every other team in the NFL, and that's not an exaggeration. Houston has the look of a young KC team from Mahomes' early years and he and Ryans look like they could be the next upcoming QB/HC force in the AFC, but they haven't proven that yet. Bills are toast, Bengals aren't shit, Ravens have a RB at QB, and so on.

It's ours for the taking because we're just a better run organization from top to bottom than any team in football, and we are currently rolling with 5 surefire future HOFers which is a once in a lifetime situation. One of them is the best HC in football who is an offensive genius, one is the best DC in football, so that right there adds up to something no other team can come close to matching. Then you add in Mahomes, Kelce and Jones? Along with all these young studs? Are you kidding?

The only organization even close to us is SF, and we own them. We own the NFL, quite frankly. However, we don't own the universe, which sometimes can be a bitch. If everything stays in order, it's ours. If anyone can do it, it's these guys.
Posts: 7,181
Wisconsin_Chief 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Wisconsin_Chief 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Wisconsin_Chief 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Wisconsin_Chief 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Wisconsin_Chief 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Wisconsin_Chief 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Wisconsin_Chief 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Wisconsin_Chief 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Wisconsin_Chief 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Wisconsin_Chief 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Wisconsin_Chief 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
Thumbs Up 2 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2024, 12:46 PM   #19
chiefzilla1501 chiefzilla1501 is offline
In Search of a Life
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
I still hold firm on the idea that our offense has a higher ceiling than we even realize despite our back to back run. Hollywood is a huge upgrade simply because he gives us something we’ve needed. I don’t think we’re even close to done yet adding offense weapons.

Because that offense paired with a defense that may take a step back, but still be very good, we’ll be a nightmare matchup.

For me the only thing in the way is just meeting the wrong team on the wrong day. Like when the greatest show on turf got stuffed by the patriots without realizing they were facing a future dynasty.
Posts: 48,145
chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2024, 12:48 PM   #20
RedinTexas RedinTexas is online now
Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: Texas
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief View Post
In all seriousness, the biggest challenge in front of them is simply the law of averages. The odds of winning 3 Super Bowls in a row are absurdly low. It takes an unbelievable combination of health, talent, execution, comradery, and focus to win one goddamn Super Bowl. Then to win another when we were, for all intents and purposes, rebuilding was just nonsense. So now to line up for 3 in a row? Man, it's a lot.

However, this organization is operating on a different level than every other team in the NFL, and that's not an exaggeration. Houston has the look of a young KC team from Mahomes' early years and he and Ryans look like they could be the next upcoming QB/HC force in the AFC, but they haven't proven that yet. Bills are toast, Bengals aren't shit, Ravens have a RB at QB, and so on.

It's ours for the taking because we're just a better run organization from top to bottom than any team in football, and we are currently rolling with 5 surefire future HOFers which is a once in a lifetime situation. One of them is the best HC in football who is an offensive genius, one is the best DC in football, so that right there adds up to something no other team can come close to matching. Then you add in Mahomes, Kelce and Jones? Along with all these young studs? Are you kidding?

The only organization even close to us is SF, and we own them. We own the NFL, quite frankly. However, we don't own the universe, which sometimes can be a bitch. If everything stays in order, it's ours. If anyone can do it, it's these guys.
Do they put GMs in the HOF? Because if they do, we have a HOF GM.
Posts: 1,739
RedinTexas would the whole thing.RedinTexas would the whole thing.RedinTexas would the whole thing.RedinTexas would the whole thing.RedinTexas would the whole thing.RedinTexas would the whole thing.RedinTexas would the whole thing.RedinTexas would the whole thing.RedinTexas would the whole thing.RedinTexas would the whole thing.RedinTexas would the whole thing.
Thumbs Up 2 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2024, 01:00 PM   #21
chiefzilla1501 chiefzilla1501 is offline
In Search of a Life
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief View Post
In all seriousness, the biggest challenge in front of them is simply the law of averages. The odds of winning 3 Super Bowls in a row are absurdly low. It takes an unbelievable combination of health, talent, execution, comradery, and focus to win one goddamn Super Bowl. Then to win another when we were, for all intents and purposes, rebuilding was just nonsense. So now to line up for 3 in a row? Man, it's a lot.

However, this organization is operating on a different level than every other team in the NFL, and that's not an exaggeration. Houston has the look of a young KC team from Mahomes' early years and he and Ryans look like they could be the next upcoming QB/HC force in the AFC, but they haven't proven that yet. Bills are toast, Bengals aren't shit, Ravens have a RB at QB, and so on.

It's ours for the taking because we're just a better run organization from top to bottom than any team in football, and we are currently rolling with 5 surefire future HOFers which is a once in a lifetime situation. One of them is the best HC in football who is an offensive genius, one is the best DC in football, so that right there adds up to something no other team can come close to matching. Then you add in Mahomes, Kelce and Jones? Along with all these young studs? Are you kidding?

The only organization even close to us is SF, and we own them. We own the NFL, quite frankly. However, we don't own the universe, which sometimes can be a bitch. If everything stays in order, it's ours. If anyone can do it, it's these guys.
The crazy thing is we went on these runs at a time where the nfl had an unprecedented number of top 1-2 tier QBs playing for “free” on rookie contracts. This year is the beginning of the reckoning that teams will need to win with a salary cap
Posts: 48,145
chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.chiefzilla1501 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
Thumbs Up 2 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2024, 01:01 PM   #22
Otter Otter is offline
Live free or die hard
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Durango, CO
Quote:
What’s our biggest challenge for a 3peat?

I think what's between the teams WRs ears is a legitimate answer.
Posts: 26,147
Otter is obviously part of the inner Circle.Otter is obviously part of the inner Circle.Otter is obviously part of the inner Circle.Otter is obviously part of the inner Circle.Otter is obviously part of the inner Circle.Otter is obviously part of the inner Circle.Otter is obviously part of the inner Circle.Otter is obviously part of the inner Circle.Otter is obviously part of the inner Circle.Otter is obviously part of the inner Circle.Otter is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2024, 01:02 PM   #23
Hammock Parties Hammock Parties is online now
I'll be back.
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Injury.

We need Kelce, Jones and Mahomes all 100% in the postseason.

If one of the three goes down, chances go down dramatically.
Posts: 278,018
Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.Hammock Parties is obviously part of the inner Circle.
Thumbs Up 2 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2024, 01:05 PM   #24
ThaVirus ThaVirus is online now
20 Menthol KOOLs
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Health, luck, and consistency/burnout issues.
Posts: 44,302
ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.
Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2024, 01:10 PM   #25
-King- -King- is offline
▓▓▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▓▓
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Everybody on the team contracting aids at the same time. We can handle 25% maybe even 50% but more than 75% of the team and I doubt we can threepeat
Posts: 63,886
-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.-King- is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2024, 01:12 PM   #26
Dunerdr Dunerdr is offline
MVP
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posters with neg rep on CP are our biggest threat.
Posts: 10,755
Dunerdr is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Dunerdr is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Dunerdr is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Dunerdr is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Dunerdr is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Dunerdr is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Dunerdr is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Dunerdr is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Dunerdr is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Dunerdr is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Dunerdr is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.
Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2024, 01:14 PM   #27
ThaVirus ThaVirus is online now
20 Menthol KOOLs
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Quote:
Originally Posted by -King- View Post
Everybody on the team contracting aids at the same time. We can handle 25% maybe even 50% but more than 75% of the team and I doubt we can threepeat
Please. AIDS doesn’t even kill people with the retroviral cocktails they’ve got these days.

You’re gonna have to step up your infectious disease game. I’m thinking Ebola. That would definitely **** us right up.
Posts: 44,302
ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.
Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2024, 01:18 PM   #28
Direckshun Direckshun is offline
__
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Springpatch
I think the Chiefs biggest challenge is going to be applying pressure on opposing QBs.

Jones and Karlaftis are the only proven passrushers. Danna is serviceable.

Omenihu is probably our second best passrusher but at this time, we don't know how he's going to look when he returns.

That being said, I think Spags/Cullen will figure it out.
Posts: 59,283
Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2024, 01:21 PM   #29
RunKC RunKC is offline
Andy Reid Supporter
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties View Post
Injury.

We need Kelce, Jones and Mahomes all 100% in the postseason.

If one of the three goes down, chances go down dramatically.
Trent McDuffie is pretty close to being on this list
Posts: 46,132
RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.RunKC is obviously part of the inner Circle.
Thumbs Up 3 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2024, 01:22 PM   #30
carcosa carcosa is offline
Thank you
 
Join Date: May 2014
KC Chiefs will go 20-0 imho
Posts: 22,840
carcosa is obviously part of the inner Circle.carcosa is obviously part of the inner Circle.carcosa is obviously part of the inner Circle.carcosa is obviously part of the inner Circle.carcosa is obviously part of the inner Circle.carcosa is obviously part of the inner Circle.carcosa is obviously part of the inner Circle.carcosa is obviously part of the inner Circle.carcosa is obviously part of the inner Circle.carcosa is obviously part of the inner Circle.carcosa is obviously part of the inner Circle.
Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:37 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.