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Old 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM  
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New Conference re-alignment thread
The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.
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Old 08-09-2023, 07:20 PM   #10816
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Old 08-09-2023, 07:31 PM   #10817
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The ACC needs powerhouse programs on the field not academic giants.
I don't think Cal moves the needle (financially as an Athletic Department they're ****ed), and I recognize that Stanford FB is shit right now and their AD has budget problems.

However, Stanford still has one of the best athletic departments in the country and if they can be what they were at the end of Harbaugh's tenure and the majority of Shaw's, they can be an asset.
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Old 08-09-2023, 07:44 PM   #10818
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The Atlantic Coast Conference.

Is looking for members out of California.

Yeah, that's gonna fix everything.

This really does seem likely to eventually settle into a couple powerhouse football conferences and a couple powerhouse basketball conferences.

But honestly, the NIL and free transfer stuff has made it a lot harder to give a shit about any of the conferences/rivalries.
My only hope is this helps shakes things up enough where it's not UGA, Bama and Tosu in the championship game every year
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Old 08-09-2023, 08:27 PM   #10819
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And they still won't beat them.
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Old 08-09-2023, 08:41 PM   #10820
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College football will eventually follow the path of how the Premier League was formed, with the top 20 or so programs breaking away to form their own super conference.
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Old 08-10-2023, 02:05 PM   #10821
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Old 08-11-2023, 07:57 AM   #10822
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Old 08-11-2023, 08:09 AM   #10823
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Long term, $30 million is way behind the Big 10 and SEC.
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Old 09-01-2023, 08:32 AM   #10824
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ACC officially adding Cal, Stanford and SMU.

Cal and Stanford in the ATLANTIC COAST Conference as their campuses overlook the Pacific… hilarious.
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Old 09-01-2023, 08:34 AM   #10825
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ACC officially adding Cal, Stanford and SMU.

Cal and Stanford in the ATLANTIC COAST Conference as their campuses overlook the Pacific… hilarious.
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Old 09-01-2023, 08:34 AM   #10826
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Cal and Stanford receive an undeserved lifeline.

This won't fix the ACC's football problem.
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Old 09-01-2023, 08:40 AM   #10827
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Cal and Stanford receive an undeserved lifeline.

This won't fix the ACC's football problem.
Maybe, maybe not. I'm guessing their gamble is Notre Dame. They already have them in all sports but football, throwing out that lifeline to one of their rivals in Stanford might just be an attempt to convince them to bring football on into the picture as well.

Whether it works or not is anybody's guess, but if it does it would be a valuable boost to that conference. Of course, the flip side to that is if it doesn't than this move only serves to be a drain.
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Old 09-01-2023, 08:46 AM   #10828
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ACC officially adding Cal, Stanford and SMU.

Cal and Stanford in the ATLANTIC COAST Conference as their campuses overlook the Pacific… hilarious.
Not sure why they did this as neither Cal or Stanford add anything to the ACC besides two more mouths to feed. SMU isn't getting anything for a while, so the ACC loses nothing adding them.
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Old 09-01-2023, 08:50 AM   #10829
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Cal and Stanford receive an undeserved lifeline.

This won't fix the ACC's football problem.
Just because I am not informed--what is the problem with ACC?
TV contract? schools suck?
just asking
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Old 09-01-2023, 08:51 AM   #10830
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So does that leave Oregon State and Washington homeless at the moment?

Man - the friggen Pac 10 really just vanished. That's remarkable.

20 years ago that would've seemed as unlikely as the SEC imploding would be to us now.
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