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Old 09-15-2019, 02:33 PM  
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Frank Clark ****ing sucks

Guy has done NOTHING in two games. Barely any pressures to speak of against trash OTs.

Yeah, I'm in bitchy gameday mode. Don't care. I'm tired of paying out the ass for defensive players who don't make plays.

At least Justin Houston could dominate against bad teams after we paid him.
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Old 10-18-2019, 08:52 AM   #1636
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Let’s talk about that piece of trash Dee Ford again for a little while.

He’s no longer starting for the 49ers and has been on the field for 78/221 snaps in the past four games - 35 percent.

He’s a productive situational pass rusher. And that’s exactly how the 49ers are using him.

Trading him was absolutely the right thing to do. He’s being paid like a 3-down player/star and isn’t close to that.

If last night was a sign of Clark getting healthy/right and back in business, I’m confident Clark ends up having a better overall year and is the better player going forward.
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Old 10-18-2019, 08:53 AM   #1637
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Not when you normally refer to him as a piece of shit.
Still salty about his beating MU days?
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Old 10-18-2019, 08:56 AM   #1638
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As long as I don't have to wait another seven games for him to do it again... but it's a start.
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Old 10-18-2019, 09:05 AM   #1639
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Still salty about his beating MU days?

Nothing to do with it, actually. Everything to do with him being a soft, weak-ass, off-injured player who also is a goddamn idiot as an NFL player.

Dorsey fell in love with him because he was a workout warrior and passed up a bunch of other good defensive players.
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Old 10-18-2019, 09:39 AM   #1640
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This was before last nights game



The only thing Dee Ford has was more sacks. That was it. And yes Clark has played far more snaps, BUT that means they know Dee Ford sucks vs the run. He isn’t playing on 1st down very often.

Yeah. Hated the compensation to get him, but Frank Clark is still better.
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Old 10-18-2019, 10:56 AM   #1641
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This was before last nights game







The only thing Dee Ford has was more sacks. That was it. And yes Clark has played far more snaps, BUT that means they know Dee Ford sucks vs the run. He isn’t playing on 1st down very often.



Yeah. Hated the compensation to get him, but Frank Clark is still better.

The missing component from PfF grades, IMO, is positional/situational adjustments.

Ford is a situational speed rusher the Niners are protecting by hiding from non-passing situations.

So his grades, by their system, will always look awesome.
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Old 10-18-2019, 11:07 AM   #1642
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Let’s talk about that piece of trash Dee Ford again for a little while.

He’s no longer starting for the 49ers and has been on the field for 78/221 snaps in the past four games - 35 percent.

He’s a productive situational pass rusher. And that’s exactly how the 49ers are using him.

Trading him was absolutely the right thing to do. He’s being paid like a 3-down player/star and isn’t close to that.

If last night was a sign of Clark getting healthy/right and back in business, I’m confident Clark ends up having a better overall year and is the better player going forward.
Well, yeah...

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As long as I don't have to wait another seven games for him to do it again... but it's a start.
THERE'S the answer I was looking for.

So yeah, establish a pattern please and let's revisit this a few weeks down the road.
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Old 10-18-2019, 11:33 AM   #1643
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He certainly earned a reprieve from my ire last night... but if it’s just a flash in the pan, it’ll bubble right back to the surface
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Old 10-18-2019, 11:41 AM   #1644
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The only thing Dee Ford has was more sacks. That was it. And yes Clark has played far more snaps, BUT that means they know Dee Ford sucks vs the run. He isn’t playing on 1st down very often.

Yeah. Hated the compensation to get him, but Frank Clark is still better.
this is actually pretty telling by pff on how bad they are. there is no way frank clark on any rating system would be that much worse then dee ford
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Old 10-18-2019, 11:49 AM   #1645
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this is actually pretty telling by pff on how bad they are. there is no way frank clark on any rating system would be that much worse then dee ford
It has to over value the pass rush and not account for setting an edge, which IMO is very important for the defensive end standpoint.
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Old 10-18-2019, 11:54 AM   #1646
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It has to over value the pass rush and not account for setting an edge, which IMO is very important for the defensive end standpoint.

For edge players, they seem to place a high value on percentage of plays that generated a pass rush.

Obviously, a situational rusher who is playing roughly 1/3 of snaps, on passing downs, is going to have a higher percentage of pressures because they’re not out there for “unpredictable situation” throws.
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Old 10-18-2019, 12:20 PM   #1647
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The only thing Dee Ford has was more sacks. That was it. And yes Clark has played far more snaps, BUT that means they know Dee Ford sucks vs the run. He isn’t playing on 1st down very often.

Yeah. Hated the compensation to get him, but Frank Clark is still better.
I don't have a subscription, but I'd love to see a lot of grades for the Chiefs after last night's game.
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Old 10-18-2019, 12:21 PM   #1648
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this is actually pretty telling by pff on how bad they are. there is no way frank clark on any rating system would be that much worse then dee ford
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Old 10-18-2019, 12:26 PM   #1649
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Old 10-18-2019, 12:51 PM   #1650
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this is actually pretty telling by pff on how bad they are. there is no way frank clark on any rating system would be that much worse then dee ford
Ford's numbers were way better going into last night's game.

But why does Ford have a third of Clark's snaps?
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