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Old 03-30-2022, 01:20 PM   #2
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The boner I'm starting to get for Ojabo is real. Like I'm thinking I would come up off 1 of the firsts and a 3rd if we had to move up a little bit to get him
I would be happy with it if we used next years 3rd to move up, but I wouldn’t be very mad if we used this years. He’s going to be a total stud in a Spags defense with this coaching once he heals if he’s able to keep his same “get off” and closing ability.
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Old 04-20-2022, 10:26 PM   #3
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I feel like this guy gets way too much disrespect on here.

He’s only been playing the position for a couple years, and he’s already a very good route runner at just 21 years old. That’s pretty much unheard of. Guys that are new to the position are almost always below average route runners.

He can also go up and get it at 5’10” 195lbs.

Dude also led the FBS with 26 broken tackles in 2021. He can play through contact for a smaller guy.

There are certainly guys I prefer over him like Pickens, but I don’t think he would be a terrible pick in the 1st, and he would be an excellent pick if he somehow fell to 50.
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Old 04-21-2022, 12:43 AM   #4
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I feel like this guy gets way too much disrespect on here.

He’s only been playing the position for a couple years, and he’s already a very good route runner at just 21 years old. That’s pretty much unheard of. Guys that are new to the position are almost always below average route runners.

He can also go up and get it at 5’10” 195lbs.

Dude also led the FBS with 26 broken tackles in 2021. He can play through contact for a smaller guy.

There are certainly guys I prefer over him like Pickens, but I don’t think he would be a terrible pick in the 1st, and he would be an excellent pick if he somehow fell to 50.

I would take Moore at 50. When I watch him, I see Julian Edelman. I wouldn't want to spend a first on Edelman, but I can see why some teams would.
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Old 04-21-2022, 12:47 AM   #5
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I would take Moore at 50. When I watch him, I see Julian Edelman. I wouldn't want to spend a first on Edelman, but I can see why some teams would.
I see Golden Tate, and if you get the Tate that played in Detroit then you have a fine WR.
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Old 04-21-2022, 01:00 AM   #6
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I see Golden Tate, and if you get the Tate that played in Detroit then you have a fine WR.
I could see that too. The problem to me is projecting his productivity against nfl level competition when the only thing that we can watch is smaller time. Also his QB was exceptional at their level. Tough to project what he will do. If I am going to take risk on projecting someone, I may as well take a higher upside players. I am just not first round high on him.
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Old 04-21-2022, 09:55 AM   #7
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I would take Moore at 50. When I watch him, I see Julian Edelman. I wouldn't want to spend a first on Edelman, but I can see why some teams would.
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I see Golden Tate, and if you get the Tate that played in Detroit then you have a fine WR.
I see a guy who doesn't play as fast as he times, and who was routinely well covered by FBS DB's that won't even sniff the NFL.
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Old 04-21-2022, 10:11 AM   #8
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I see a guy who doesn't play as fast as he times, and who was routinely well covered by FBS DB's that won't even sniff the NFL.
That’s simply just not true.
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Old 04-21-2022, 01:15 AM   #9
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I feel like this guy gets way too much disrespect on here.

He’s only been playing the position for a couple years, and he’s already a very good route runner at just 21 years old. That’s pretty much unheard of. Guys that are new to the position are almost always below average route runners.

He can also go up and get it at 5’10” 195lbs.

Dude also led the FBS with 26 broken tackles in 2021. He can play through contact for a smaller guy.

There are certainly guys I prefer over him like Pickens, but I don’t think he would be a terrible pick in the 1st, and he would be an excellent pick if he somehow fell to 50.
I agree, I don't think his ceiling is that high, and I'm not sure he's entirely bust-proof either - but he's in that group it's hard to see not adding value. I get the argument there's nothing he does exceptionally well, apart from possibly his hands, but there's nothing he does poorly imo. Good separator, pretty quick, excellent hands, good YAC. Is he a R1? Maybe not, but is it an egregious pick there if the top 5 or 6 are gone and there's no obvious DE or CB left, probably not.

It's the back end of the first, you might get a top talent, you might get a R2 talent. I think he's definitely the latter at least
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Old 04-21-2022, 09:53 AM   #10
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There are certainly guys I prefer over him like Pickens, but I don’t think he would be a terrible pick in the 1st, and he would be an excellent pick if he somehow fell to 50.
In the 1st?

Oh **** he'd be an AWFUL pick in the 1st. I would lose my shit. I don't even want him in the 2nd.
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Old 04-21-2022, 10:10 AM   #11
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In the 1st?

Oh **** he'd be an AWFUL pick in the 1st. I would lose my shit. I don't even want him in the 2nd.
Fully disagree.

It would be a bit underwhelming, but not a terrible pick.

Again, we’re talking about a very young guy that is new to the position, yet just seems to be a natural at the position when it comes to things like route running and going up to get the football.
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Old 04-21-2022, 10:13 AM   #12
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Fully disagree.

It would be a bit underwhelming, but not a terrible pick.

Again, we’re talking about a very young guy that is new to the position, yet just seems to be a natural at the position when it comes to things like route running and going up to get the football.
Wait, you'd wanna pick him in the first round?
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Old 04-21-2022, 10:16 AM   #13
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Wait, you'd wanna pick him in the first round?
No, but I think it’s more of a possibility than people realize, and I wouldn’t completely hate it.
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Old 04-21-2022, 10:15 AM   #14
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Again, we’re talking about a very young guy that is new to the position, yet just seems to be a natural at the position when it comes to things like route running and going up to get the football.
As a 1st? It'd be a terrible pick. You're describing a 3rd round prospect.

There's really nothing elite about his game, and i was watching FBS db's run with him downfield and force him into contested catches. I don't believe he plays to 4.41 speed.

A 5-10" WR that can't run away from FBS's DB's. Not interested in the 1st 2 rounds. Not really interested at all tbh.

I can't really identify what it is that he's going to do well on the NFL level.
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Old 04-21-2022, 10:21 AM   #15
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As a 1st? It'd be a terrible pick. You're describing a 3rd round prospect.

There's really nothing elite about his game, and i was watching FBS db's run with him downfield and force him into contested catches. I don't believe he plays to 4.41 speed.

A 5-10" WR that can't run away from FBS's DB's. Not interested in the 1st 2 rounds. Not really interested at all tbh.

I can't really identify what it is that he's going to do well on the NFL level.
Dude had 1,200 yards and 10 TDs. He led the FBS with 26 broken tackles. You’re talking like he wasn’t productive, when he was pretty dominant at that level.

I don’t think he’s a high upside guy, but he’s got a very high floor, and fits the offense.

I think he’s a Tyler Lockett caliber player, which is great on a rookie deal.

Again, I personally wouldn’t take him before 50 though.
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