Las Vegas Raiders?

[ChiefsCountry]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14...ng-leaked-memo

ALAMEDA, Calif. -- While a leaked memo from UNLV president Len Jessup said representatives of the Oakland Raiders will be in Las Vegas on Friday to check out potential stadium sites, team owner Mark Davis would offer only a cryptic comment.

"In typical Raider fashion," Davis said with a laugh over the phone from the Bay Area, "I can neither confirm nor deny."

Davis will be in Las Vegas and is scheduled to meet with Las Vegas Sands Chairman and CEO Sheldon Adelson, Sands spokesman Ron Reese confirmed.

The Sands Corp. announced Thursday that it was lending its support to build a $1 billion domed stadium on a vacant 42 acres of land recently purchased by UNLV near the corner of Tropicana Avenue and Koval Lane across from McCarran International Airport.

"Correspondingly, the Sands leadership team let us know that officials from the Oakland Raiders are scheduled to travel to Las Vegas and tour locations around the valley for a potential new home, and they have asked us to meet them at our 42-acre site on Friday morning to answer questions about that site," Jessup wrote in the memo, which was reported earlier by Nevada political reporter Jon Ralston.

UNLV is looking for a new home for its football program, which has played at 35,500-seat Sam Boyd Stadium some nine miles from campus on the eastern edge of the city since 1971.

According to the Las Vegas Review-Journal, Los Angeles-based Majestic Realty Co. and UNLV are involved in the conceptual plans, and Las Vegas Sands senior vice president of government relations and community development Andy Abboud said the project would be a "public-private" partnership, with the Sands or the Adelson family contributing a large portion of the financing.

"He said the casino company, which operates the Venetian and Palazzo [casinos], as well as casinos in Macau, Singapore and Pennsylvania, could also raise financing for the project," the Review-Journal reported.

Tony Sanchez, UNLV's head football coach, said "having an on-campus, state-of-the-art stadium would be huge."

"We have a nice stadium now; the location is just a little further out," said Sanchez, who grew up a die-hard Raiders fan in the Bay Area. "To have something on campus, right in the heart of Las Vegas, would change the entire game-day atmosphere. We're right near the Strip. People can walk or take public transportation. It would be a great addition for the city."

Davis has long stated that remaining in Oakland is his primary goal, but after being rebuffed in an attempt to move to Los Angeles and join the Chargers in a joint-stadium project in nearby Carson, the Raiders do not have a lease for a home stadium for the 2016 season. They do have the option to join the Rams in Inglewood should the Chargers decline.

It is expected that the Raiders will play at least the 2016 season in Oakland. They have also been linked to San Diego, should the Chargers go to Los Angeles, for the following years as well as to San Antonio.

The NFL has had a hard line against Las Vegas, and it is hard to see the league signing off on allowing a team to relocate to the gambling capital of the country. The NFL did not respond immediately to a request for comment.

Las Vegas has chased a major league franchise for almost two decades, including MLB and NBA teams. The city appears close to getting an NHL team in under-construction T-Mobile Arena between the New York-New York and Monte Carlo casinos.

And while Las Vegas may be a relatively small media market at No. 41 nationally, it is bigger than four other current NFL markets in Jacksonville (No. 48), New Orleans (No. 51), Buffalo (No. 52) and Green Bay (No. 68), per last year's Nielsen data.

[jallmon]

Originally Posted by stumppy

A hooker on a donkey would be the perfect mascot for them.

Hooker under a donkey if I remember my times in tj.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by jallmon

Hooker under a donkey if I remember my times in tj.

[Dayze]

My Tiajuana experience, I saw a young gal send small nerf football through a set up upright field goal posts that another gal was holding. it was sent through the air in a way I had never seen before, and have never seen since.

imagine a lady being examined by an OBGYN; except instead of the OBGYN, there was another scantily clad gal holding two yellow sticks immeidately in front of the other girls 'area'. when it first started we though "what's this all about" (we were sort of making our way around the 'bar') didn't see any nerf football at this point. Then, a small orange thing appeared in girl one....and it got bigger, and bigger...then "Blloink"..out pops a nerf football and through the nearby uprights.

damnedest thing I've ever seen.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by jallmon

Hooker under a donkey if I remember my times in tj.

I was talking about the pre-game activities. You gotta let them work up to the big climax......so to speak.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by Dayze

My Tiajuana experience, I saw a young gal send small nerf football through a set up upright field goal posts that another gal was holding. it was sent through the air in a way I had never seen before, and have never seen since.

imagine a lady being examined by an OBGYN; except instead of the OBGYN, there was another scantily clad gal holding two yellow sticks immeidately in front of the other girls 'area'. when it first started we though "what's this all about" (we were sort of making our way around the 'bar') didn't see any nerf football at this point. Then, a small orange thing appeared in girl one....and it got bigger, and bigger...then "Blloink"..out pops a nerf football and through the nearby uprights.

damnedest thing I've ever seen.

I did see a ping pong shooting dance back in the early 8O's in Chicago Heights, Ill. If I remember right she was good for about 4 shots before the magazine ran dry. There was also one who cold make a rolled up dollar bill disappear and reappear sevral times in a row without using her hands or mouth. She would just kind of matriculate the bill in and out in and out in and out.

[Dayze]

Originally Posted by stumppy

I did see a ping pong shooting dance back in the early 8O's in Chicago Heights, Ill. If I remember right she was good for about 4 shots before the magazine ran dry. There was also one who cold make a rolled up dollar bill disappear and reappear sevral times in a row without using her hands or mouth. She would just kind of matriculate the bill in and out in and out in and out.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Screw it. Just get rid of the Raiders and Browns.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Screw it. Just get rid of the Raiders and Browns.

Or any team that's not at least been the the SB after 49 years! Lord knows hitting "50" should be considered too embarrassing in a league with near fiscal parity. The league should make them sell, and the owners should be willing to too. Raw odds suggest in a conference with 16 teams, just the base odds, a team should go to the SB 3.125 in 50 years. To fail that many years in a row clearly shows, as an owner, you just don't have the leadership skills to put the right people in place to get it done.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Or any team that's not at least been the the SB after 49 years! Lord knows hitting "50" should be considered too embarrassing in a league with near fiscal parity. The league should make them sell, and the owners should be willing to too. Raw odds suggest in a conference with 16 teams, just the base odds, a team should go to the SB 3.125 in 50 years. To fail that many years in a row clearly shows, as an owner, you just don't have the leadership skills to put the right people in place to get it done.

Now THERE'S some "flushing" I can get behind!

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Or any team that's not at least been the the SB after 49 years! Lord knows hitting "50" should be considered too embarrassing in a league with near fiscal parity. The league should make them sell, and the owners should be willing to too. Raw odds suggest in a conference with 16 teams, just the base odds, a team should go to the SB 3.125 in 50 years. To fail that many years in a row clearly shows, as an owner, you just don't have the leadership skills to put the right people in place to get it done.

You damn well that there are only a few teams allowed to play in the Super bowl. ...the rest are just built up to be fed to those teams on occasion.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

You damn well that there are only a few teams allowed to play in the Super bowl. ...the rest are just built up to be fed to those teams on occasion.

Clearly...

[scho63]

Looks like the Raiders are failing miserably on their ability to move to Vegas. What else should we have expected with these idiots!

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Adelson spokesman on Raiders' Vegas gaffe: 'I’m still trying to figure out what the hell they were thinking'

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/adelson...160050077.html

As it stands, the brief time the Oakland Raiders looked like a lock to move to Las Vegas will go down in relocation “what if?” history, alongside the Philadelphia Eagles almost moving to Phoenix and the Chicago White Sox threatening to move to Tampa Bay.

It’s amazing that the Raiders’ move to Las Vegas looks dead, at least for now. The team was given $750 million in public money for a dome, a record for American professional sports stadiums, and still might not be able to get it done.

It began to unravel when casino owner Sheldon Adelson, who had pledged a $650 million investment, pulled out of the deal. The Raiders thought they had a backup plan through Goldman Sachs, but then the investment company later said its involvement hinged on Adelson’s investment. The way that story unfolded makes no sense, but consider that Adelson and Goldman Sachs have a “long-time relationship” according to the Review-Journal. Adelson’s spokespeople insist he never contacted Goldman Sachs to pull support. Then there must have been one heck of a miscommunication between the Raiders and Goldman Sachs over two-thirds of a billion dollars. Now the Raiders have to fill a $650 million gap if they want to move to Las Vegas.

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What happened that this sweetheart deal went sideways? If you believe a spokesperson for Adelson, it was because the Raiders were handed an incredible deal, then asked for even more.

“[Adelson] was willing to share revenues and make it financially mutually beneficial, but they were picking his pocket,” said Adelson family spokesman and vice president of Las Vegas Sands Corporation Andy Abboud told the Las Vegas Review-Journal. “I think that they felt they were asking to be entitled to revenue streams and things that simply made the deal unworkable. It was never about the financial return for the Adelsons, but the Adelson family wasn’t going to have their pocket picked, by the Raiders or by the NFL or anybody.”

This is business, there are still a few weeks left until NFL owners vote on the Raiders’ relocation, and if there’s money to be made then fences can be mended or other investors could be found. But if the Las Vegas Raiders deal is in fact dead, we can look back to the Raiders’ stadium lease proposal on Jan. 27 as the moment the team blew it, at least according to Abboud. The Raiders submitted a proposal that included many points that were very friendly to the team, most famously an annual rent of $1. The Raiders also said they wanted full control over all markings on the field, which ignored how important UNLV football was in the deal. It’s surprising that the Raiders could be so tone deaf after just being given a fortune in taxpayer money from Nevada, though the Raiders have since walked back on that and said they’d be flexible on stadium and field markings for UNLV home games.

Abboud said that proposal “did not reflect the commitments that the Adelson family made to the Raiders and that the Raiders had made to the Adelson family.” The proposal, in addition to the proposals that benefited the Raiders, did not mention Adelson as a partner. That’s pretty amazing when you consider Adelson was giving about one-third of the cost of the $1.9 billion dome.

“I’m still trying to figure out what the hell they were thinking,” Abboud told the Review-Journal. “Had they told anybody ahead of time that they were going to dump that document, even if they had told us, ‘We don’t want you in the deal anymore,’ if they had shown anyone that’s been involved in this process at all that document, we would have said, ‘What in the hell are you thinking?’

“[Adelson] wanted everyone in the state to know and the community to know that he would never have asked for that $750 million if we knew the Raiders were going to come forward with terms that were not reflective of anything we had discussed over the last year,” Abboud said. “He would have never asked for that kind of commitment from the state based on the lease agreement the Raiders proposed.”

It seems like the deal could be revived. There’s still all that public money that was pushed through by the politicians in Nevada, and the NFL hasn’t voted yet. Most businessmen don’t like leaving $750 million in free money on the table. The Review-Journal’s story said “the Adelson family remains committed to getting a stadium built and having an NFL franchise in Las Vegas,” and Abboud “thinks there are tough negotiations ahead if the Raiders proceed,” though he wasn’t aware of any new investment partners with the Adelson family out of the deal. The Review-Journal is owned by Adelson, so it’s worth keeping that in mind as your read these explosive statements. Some negotiations are more public than others.

But at the moment, the Raiders’ missteps are ripe for criticism.

“Don’t underestimate the ability of Las Vegas to stand up for itself,” Abboud told the Review-Journal. “The Las Vegas Raiders are today’s bright, shiny object. There will be a new bright, shiny object tomorrow and there will be another bright, shiny object after that. This is a city that always has one fabulous new idea after another. You had to be deaf and blind to think the city or the state were ever going to roll over for anybody.”

[notorious]

[MMXcalibur]

I wouldn't care if this were the Chiefs or the Jaguars in place of the Raiders, I'm glad these greedy NFL ****s got bitchslapped.

[jallmon]

Originally Posted by scho63

Looks like the Raiders are failing miserably on their ability to move to Vegas. What else should we have expected with these idiots!

Wow. Just wow.