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Old 03-15-2023, 12:59 PM  
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Old 06-14-2023, 09:24 AM   #346
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I wonder if surgery isn’t gonna mostly fix this? He had the knee drained but it sure seems like he needs full on surgery and rehab to make the best of his knee moving forward. Who knows.

I agree that this will probably be his last contract unless he can somehow push through, but it’s not gonna get better with age and wear and tear.

It was smart to let him walk.
It's probably some kind of meniscus issue and you can't fix that.

You can just remove the meniscus and when that happens, you're dealing with bone on bone contact that will inevitably create - you guessed it - fluid on the knee and severe swelling.

Even money says he has some sort of meniscus tear that simply can't be resolved. They can leave it in there to provide some protection, but it gets inflamed. They can take it out but that's going to lead to issues in its own right.

There's no way to fix him. He's damaged goods, now and forevermore.
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Old 06-14-2023, 09:41 AM   #347
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momentum gaining between Pats and Hopkins coming to a deal…per Jeff Howe
Good for them. Now they can be last but close to third in their division.
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Old 06-14-2023, 09:42 AM   #348
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Well we have our answer as to why Veach didn’t want him here even at that team friendly contract that New England gave him.



Damn dude. It’s been 4 months since the SB and your knee is still a problem? Perhaps he should have surgery if this is this big of an issue.

Well done Brett.
Knew that when they changed his incentives early in the season. No way they would have done that if they weren't worried about him sitting out games for injury reasons.
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Old 06-14-2023, 09:45 AM   #349
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It's probably some kind of meniscus issue and you can't fix that.

You can just remove the meniscus and when that happens, you're dealing with bone on bone contact that will inevitably create - you guessed it - fluid on the knee and severe swelling.

Even money says he has some sort of meniscus tear that simply can't be resolved. They can leave it in there to provide some protection, but it gets inflamed. They can take it out but that's going to lead to issues in its own right.

There's no way to fix him. He's damaged goods, now and forevermore.
They can do microfracture surgery but he would miss an entire year. For some it is a near permanent fix and others just a stopgap that could work for several years or just a few months.

Kelce had microfracture surgery for damaged cartilage in his knee in 2013.
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Old 06-14-2023, 09:45 AM   #350
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Yea, but they're still making some very weird decisions.

Meyers is younger, healthier, and probably a better player at this point, and still didn't cost THAT much more.
They always made weird decisions, but because of Brady they got away with it, especially on offense. With him gone their decisions are even more amplified and the luster is wearing off of Belechick.
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Old 06-14-2023, 09:47 AM   #351
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momentum gaining between Pats and Hopkins coming to a deal…per Jeff Howe
If he goes there it's strictly for money. No way he elevates them beyond the fourth best team in the AFCE, much less the AFC.
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Old 06-14-2023, 09:55 AM   #352
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Old 06-14-2023, 09:56 AM   #353
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They can do microfracture surgery but he would miss an entire year. For some it is a near permanent fix and others just a stopgap that could work for several years or just a few months.

Kelce had microfracture surgery for damaged cartilage in his knee in 2013.

I recently watched some old Kelce highlights from 2014 which I've never done before and damn he was spry. Just popped off the screen immediately.

Seems like something that could save Juju's career if he had the same results.

Otherwise, bye felicia
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Old 06-14-2023, 09:58 AM   #354
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I recently watched some old Kelce highlights from 2014 which I've never done before and damn he was spry. Just popped off the screen immediately.

Seems like something that could save Juju's career if he had the same results.

Otherwise, bye felicia
Too late in career for him. No way he would command a decent salary if he missed a year now.
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Old 06-14-2023, 10:56 AM   #355
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I recently watched some old Kelce highlights from 2014 which I've never done before and damn he was spry. Just popped off the screen immediately.

Seems like something that could save Juju's career if he had the same results.

Otherwise, bye felicia
I'd have to think that were the sort of thing he'd have had done in, what, 2020 when he missed most of the season with the torn shoulder? That's an ideal time to get something like that cleaned up if there were a legitimate surgical option for it.

Because this is not a new issue for him - he's been fighting knee issues going back to his 2nd year, IIRC.
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Old 06-14-2023, 01:53 PM   #356
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I recently watched some old Kelce highlights from 2014 which I've never done before and damn he was spry. Just popped off the screen immediately.

Seems like something that could save Juju's career if he had the same results.

Otherwise, bye felicia
I watched some highlights of Kelce from last season and his routes were so quick and precise that he was unguardable. It was insane how sudden he is for his age/mileage.
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Old 06-14-2023, 01:54 PM   #357
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I'd have to think that were the sort of thing he'd have had done in, what, 2020 when he missed most of the season with the torn shoulder? That's an ideal time to get something like that cleaned up if there were a legitimate surgical option for it.

Because this is not a new issue for him - he's been fighting knee issues going back to his 2nd year, IIRC.
He probably knows deep down he is done once he has it 'fixed.'
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Old 06-14-2023, 03:19 PM   #358
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He was a fungible vet. I will never understand the want to resign the guy here. There's guys like him in the draft and on the market every year.
It would be great to have a healthy Tyreek in his prime, those guys cost you.

I was fine with bringing JuJu back if he was cheap enough. Obviously, he wasn't.

BV is rolling the dice on Toney who came cheap because of injury. My over/under says he plays in 12.5 games in the regular season.
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Old 06-14-2023, 03:30 PM   #359
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They can do microfracture surgery but he would miss an entire year. For some it is a near permanent fix and others just a stopgap that could work for several years or just a few months.

Kelce had microfracture surgery for damaged cartilage in his knee in 2013.
Kelce may be the best post microfracture surgery career in any sport.

I suppose you have to have the injury right where cartilage growth will be part of the healing from the microfractures to the bone.
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Old 06-14-2023, 03:38 PM   #360
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That's not a terrible outcome whatsoever.
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