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12-23-2019, 02:57 PM | #2 |
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Carson Wentz just got a $32 million AAV contract extension. His first year cap hit is $8.39 million. Mahomes contract will likely be a bit higher than Wilson’s leading $35 million AAV.
I think that would put Pat around an $11 million first year cap hit. Then with Jones first year cap hit mirroring Clark, it would be $6.5 million. So yeah we’ll be fine next year cap wise and could keep Sammy if Andy really pushes to (I hope not). We’ll have money to spend this Spring outside of Pat/Jones. Hopefully we trade/cut Sammy and use that money on a Ward extension and a veteran IOL. |
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12-24-2019, 11:31 PM | #3 |
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I like Sammy, hope things end well here and he gets a ring this season. But he gone after that. No doubt about it.
Just not enough cash or opportunity to go around. Hill and Kelce are the money makers at this point and I think you have to hope for good progression out of Hardman. He should become best buddies with Tyreek and Patrick this offseason if he wants to reach his max potential eventually, which resides somewhere in the realm of Desean Jackson IMO (the comp I gave him during the draft). |
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02-09-2020, 01:04 AM | #7 |
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We currently have 13.7m in cap space.
We get 14m for trading Sammy Watkins. We get 5m for trading/cutting LDT. We can save 5-6m by extending Kelce deal. Another 4-5m can be saved by adding on a year or 2 to Fishers deal. That’s about 43m in cap space. If we give Jones the same deal as Franks, his 2020 cap hit will be 6.5m. 5m for rookies. Kemp, Yelder and Wylie are exclusive rights free agents...so they will be ultra cheap. That leaves around 30m left in team cap space and hopefully 2 draft pics in return for LDT and Watkins. Most GMs like to have 5-7m in space going into the season so that leaves 23-25m to fill the remaining spots. Pick 3 of these: CHJ AJ Green Emmanuel Sanders Logan Ryan Byron Jones Mackenzie Alexander Sean Lee Lorenzo Alexander Pick 2 of these: Pennel Ogbah Wisnewski Fuller (he might be priced out of this group. Someone will overpay him) That’s realistically what we’re looking at. Veach will need to be smart with his decisions and hit on all of his draft picks again. I have faith he will. |
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02-09-2020, 06:23 AM | #8 | |
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And then if it leaves us with any extra to sign a linebacker or offensive linemen, that is icing on the cake. I don't know if we would have to lose Chris Jones in that sort of scenario or we could still swing it. |
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02-09-2020, 06:57 AM | #9 | |
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Also, he cut LDT and didn't list any replacement in his FA/re-signings, so your Oline is even worse going into 2020, or at best "unknown" with a rookie stepping in ahead of Wylie, Rankins or Allegretti. Plus, saying things like "Jones cap hit would only be $6.5m in 2020" sounds great, but if he's getting $100m over 5 then his cap hit in 2021 is going to be $25m+ at the time when Mahomes contract will also start cranking up, so while you can fit some decent FAs in 2020 you are screwed in 2021. You can only push these things forward a year to delay the inevitable for so long, and this definitely isn't the way to build a dynasty. |
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02-09-2020, 10:21 PM | #10 | |
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If Chris Jones has a deal similar to Frank, he’ll get around $23 million in year 2 just like Frank. Then you have Pat who is going to be at least a mid 20’s cap hit in 2021 (year 2 of deal) , likely closer to 30. That is about 35% of your cap for 3 players assuming it grows $10 million a year as it has to $210 million. Even if the CBA blows up, it won’t blow up that quickly. Assuming it does goes crazy and you add $10 million to it to make that $220 million, it’s still about 33% for 3 players. That’s why keeping Jones is extremely difficult |
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02-09-2020, 09:39 AM | #11 |
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Assuming Bosschief's numbers are close, I'm a little more optimistic.
But the priority should be IOL, CB, LB. IOL because we must protect the franchise, and it will make the running game look a lot better than it has. CB because we have 2 under contract and it's a really expensive position. LB because the ones we have can't cover for shit. I'm less worried about WR as long as we beef up the line. If we can keep Pat clean, he'll pick you apart with Hill/Hardman/Kelce/Pringle or whomever in that 4th option spot. I'm not super worried about RB although it could use some competition. |
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02-09-2020, 09:45 PM | #12 |
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I don't agree with all the people wanting to cut LDT. Are we going to replace him with a 2 mil POS to save money?? That would be counter productive. We need to move forward not backward on the OL.
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03-30-2020, 05:09 PM | #13 |
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