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Pitt Gorilla · 03-02-2024, 07:59 PM

I read that LaVar Williams doesn't want CaLonzo to sign an NFL rookie deal. Thank the Lord for Pat, because I wouldn't want to deal with this nonsense.

Whatever he IS, dude certainly isn't a lead of men.

Chieftain · 03-02-2024, 08:36 PM

Painting your nails is a queerish trait. No man does that.
Crying to your momma in the stands after a loss, that's certainly not a masculine trait. Crying is fine as long as it is done inside the locker room. But in the stands, hugging your momma? What in the effing fück is that?
This guy has diva written all over him. A massive massive red flag. I would not draft him if I were in Poles' shoes. Better take a swing at Maye or Daniels.

**RealSNR** · 03-02-2024, 09:24 PM

If you're Poles, and you pass on Caleb and the QB you take (keep?) ends up being worse than him, you not only run the risk of being fired. You run the risk of being universally booed and loathed by the next team that hires you in whatever assistant role.

It won't matter what else you do as GM of the Bears after that. Have consistently incredible drafts? Doesn't matter. You're still the GM who passed on Caleb Williams.

You know how Ryan Grigson is the GM who drafted Andrew Luck? No he's not. Nobody ever calls him that. They call him the GM who KILLED Andrew Luck.

That's your future if you think you're such hot shit and get too cute.

Chieftain · 03-03-2024, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

If you're Poles, and you pass on Caleb and the QB you take (keep?) ends up being worse than him, you not only run the risk of being fired. You run the risk of being universally booed and loathed by the next team that hires you in whatever assistant role.

It won't matter what else you do as GM of the Bears after that. Have consistently incredible drafts? Doesn't matter. You're still the GM who passed on Caleb Williams.

You know how Ryan Grigson is the GM who drafted Andrew Luck? No he's not. Nobody ever calls him that. They call him the GM who KILLED Andrew Luck.

That's your future if you think you're such hot shit and get too cute.

When was the last time a talented QB that had these many red flags became a league superstar and had a long successful career?

ThaVirus · 03-03-2024, 09:57 AM

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When was the last time a talented QB that had these many red flags became a league superstar and had a long successful career?

Off the top of my head, Cam Newton.

Really hinges on what you consider red flags though.

trndobrd · 03-03-2024, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

If you're Poles, and you pass on Caleb and the QB you take (keep?) ends up being worse than him, you not only run the risk of being fired. You run the risk of being universally booed and loathed by the next team that hires you in whatever assistant role.

It won't matter what else you do as GM of the Bears after that. Have consistently incredible drafts? Doesn't matter. You're still the GM who passed on Caleb Williams.

You know how Ryan Grigson is the GM who drafted Andrew Luck? No he's not. Nobody ever calls him that. They call him the GM who KILLED Andrew Luck.

That's your future if you think you're such hot shit and get too cute.

Don’t disagree, but refusal to release medical record and complete a physical is enough of a red flag that Bears fans might be capable of understanding.

TwistedChief · 03-03-2024, 10:36 AM

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Don’t disagree, but refusal to release medical record and complete a physical is enough of a red flag that Bears fans might be capable of understanding.

But the Bears and other teams at the top of the draft will have his medical records. So who cares?

Bump · 03-02-2024, 10:12 PM

I for one want to see this guy bust harder than Ryan Leaf and Jemarcus Russel combined.

Acting like you deserve a piece of the ownership pie and acting like you're so good that you can choose what team drafts you. It would be very entertaining to see him bust out.

kccrow · 03-02-2024, 10:13 PM

I'd feel a lot better as a GM with one of my QBs being Drake Maye or Jayden Daniels, honestly. I don't have supreme confidence that Caleb is more talented and if he is then that talent divide is thin enough that I'd consider other aspects. What I do think is that Maye and Daniels are a bit less worrisome from a mental perspective. If I'm looking at upside, I think Maye is the guy. I'd have a really hard time right now in my thought process not taking Maye at #1.

Why Not? · 03-03-2024, 09:38 AM

Williams has talent, no doubt. But he does not strike me as a leader of men. You really want to try to rally your team around a grown man crying to his mother after he lost a regular season college game? Sorry, not gonna do it. But the Bears will and that's why they are the Bears.

Pablo · 03-03-2024, 10:31 AM

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Williams has talent, no doubt. But he does not strike me as a leader of men. You really want to try to rally your team around a grown man crying to his mother after he lost a regular season college game? Sorry, not gonna do it. But the Bears will and that's why they are the Bears.

Jalen Hurts is in year 4 and they're openly talking about working him into more of a leadership role. Some guys have it. And some guys are incredibly talented but will never get the best out of the players around them. See Kyler Murray. Some guys cry into their mother's bosom and sulk and watch Friends reruns.

Boy there's just something about those Gooner Sooner QB's isn't there??

Pasta Little Brioni · 03-03-2024, 10:34 AM

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Jalen Hurts is in year 4 and they're openly talking about working him into more of a leadership role. Some guys have it. And some guys are incredibly talented but will never get the best out of the players around them. See Kyler Murray. Some guys cry into their mother's bosom and sulk and watch Friends reruns.

Boy there's just something about those Gooner Sooner QB's isn't there??

Good thing Pat is the only Big Whatever QB worth a shit. Thank goodness the stench of that conference avoided him.

Pablo · 03-03-2024, 10:36 AM

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Good thing Pat is the only Big Whatever QB worth a shit. Thank goodness the stench of that conference avoided him.

The greatest QB you've ever watched play is a Big 12 product. Enjoy that nugget rolling around in there, it's a happy thought.

Pasta Little Brioni · 03-03-2024, 10:38 AM

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The greatest QB you've ever watched play is a Big 12 product. Enjoy that nugget rolling around in there, it's a happy thought.

I don't care where he's from and I want all other teams to draft the rest of the shit bags and all fail miserably

03-02-2024, 07:59 PM	#2
Pitt Gorilla Banned! Pitt Gorilla's Avatar Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: NOT Columbia, MO 65201	I read that LaVar Williams doesn't want CaLonzo to sign an NFL rookie deal. Thank the Lord for Pat, because I wouldn't want to deal with this nonsense. Whatever he IS, dude certainly isn't a lead of men.
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Chieftain Fan since 1997 Chieftain's Avatar Join Date: Nov 2018	Painting your nails is a queerish trait. No man does that. Crying to your momma in the stands after a loss, that's certainly not a masculine trait. Crying is fine as long as it is done inside the locker room. But in the stands, hugging your momma? What in the effing fück is that? This guy has diva written all over him. A massive massive red flag. I would not draft him if I were in Poles' shoes. Better take a swing at Maye or Daniels.
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03-02-2024, 09:24 PM	#4
RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! RealSNR's Avatar Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR	If you're Poles, and you pass on Caleb and the QB you take (keep?) ends up being worse than him, you not only run the risk of being fired. You run the risk of being universally booed and loathed by the next team that hires you in whatever assistant role. It won't matter what else you do as GM of the Bears after that. Have consistently incredible drafts? Doesn't matter. You're still the GM who passed on Caleb Williams. You know how Ryan Grigson is the GM who drafted Andrew Luck? No he's not. Nobody ever calls him that. They call him the GM who KILLED Andrew Luck. That's your future if you think you're such hot shit and get too cute.
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03-02-2024, 10:12 PM	#9
Bump YOU take YOUR seat Bump's Avatar Join Date: Nov 2007	I for one want to see this guy bust harder than Ryan Leaf and Jemarcus Russel combined. Acting like you deserve a piece of the ownership pie and acting like you're so good that you can choose what team drafts you. It would be very entertaining to see him bust out.
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03-02-2024, 10:13 PM	#10
kccrow MVP kccrow's Avatar Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan	I'd feel a lot better as a GM with one of my QBs being Drake Maye or Jayden Daniels, honestly. I don't have supreme confidence that Caleb is more talented and if he is then that talent divide is thin enough that I'd consider other aspects. What I do think is that Maye and Daniels are a bit less worrisome from a mental perspective. If I'm looking at upside, I think Maye is the guy. I'd have a really hard time right now in my thought process not taking Maye at #1.
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Why Not? In Search of a Life Why Not?'s Avatar Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Kansas	Williams has talent, no doubt. But he does not strike me as a leader of men. You really want to try to rally your team around a grown man crying to his mother after he lost a regular season college game? Sorry, not gonna do it. But the Bears will and that's why they are the Bears.
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