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McDowell: Why The Chiefs Pursuit to Renovate Arrowhead Has Hit A Snag
We've been talking about this for a few weeks over in the Royals thread. It's been interesting to see how quiet the Chiefs have been while the Royals negotiate for a new stadium, and in the last couple weeks there's more and more smoke that the Chiefs and Royals staying in Jackson County is not a sure thing. Sam McDowell finally wrote about it. It's a very long column so I just picked some highlights. It's a good breakdown of the situation. It sounds like Kansas hasn't made any serious offers but they're the obvious alternative if Jackson County decides to punt, and it sounds like the Royals and Chiefs want answers soon.
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Yo I think the parking fees and beer profits from just one season should be able to pay for a new stadium.
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If the Royals leave Jackson County, why should Jackson County extend the same 3/8th percent sales tax that was good enough for both the 80+ Royals games and the 15 or so Chiefs games every year?
It should be lower, I would think. Also, if one county subsidizing a stadium is such a great deal for the people in that county, let's see what other county wants to do it. Frank White ain't no dummy. He grew up near the old stadium and there were plenty of wise and respected folks there and elsewhere who questioned the fairness and the reasons for leaving Municipal and who was paying for it. White physically worked to build the Truman Sports Complex as a laborer before he made the majors, and he overcame lots of doubts about him as a player to become one of the Royals' all-time greats. He also has had a direct eye on the racism that has affected generations of Kansas Citizens on playing fields, in schools, at stores, in elections, and in many other venues. Those are the facts, which many will deny, but none of us who spent considerable parts of our lives in Kansas City's inner city listening to our elders and simply seeing what was going on would. I say that as a white man who is now relatively well-off, and living in sunny California. Racism doesn't explain everything. Some of it is simply classism, the rich being savvy about screwing the poor, which they are so good at that they get the poor to argue against their own interests. Being mad at someone because they don't want to take a deal that is supposedly in their interest to take is stupid. If it actually is in their interest, prove it. If it isn't, then how about pulling your heads out of the mega-rich people's asses and realizing that you're being pimped? Last edited by DanT; 12-02-2023 at 08:00 AM.. |
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All about the grift anyway. Who stands to gain? Owner, Mayor, Unions, Contractors, council
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The cost of everything has skyrocketed. The renewal of the existing is not fair. It is a huge win for the county and state as it lowers the actual $$$ to the teams because of inflation on many many levels. The team that is a perennial bottom-feeding loser does not deserve the same as a team that is as successful as the Chiefs have been. |
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That is what the OP states. The county should jump on that as a bargain and that the Chiefs are wanting to stay at a lesser rate than what is actually achievable by such a successful franchise.
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Those other counties' ain't going to vote for a tax increase on themselves when they know Jackson county will cover the cost. |
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On the other hand, if one of two major tenants leaves and their vacated space no longer requires subsidizing, then demands on those revenues could and should be lowered, particularly if profitable uses can be made to the space, which is what the stakeholders want, both the County and the Chiefs. The trick is to spread the burdens and rewards equitably, which could be a challenge if basic math skills are lacking in local residents. Last edited by DanT; 12-02-2023 at 09:30 AM.. |
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So on the surface it doesn’t seem like a tax payer issue or a team issue but a Jackson County government unhappy with their cut of the revenue issue Unless there’s more to the story that I’m missing |
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With the cost of everything along with the increase of necessities to get players to remain a winner, there is simply not enough revenue to keep the facility at or near the top of the league. |
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I never lived in KC so this perspective is from an outsider:
I think Arrowhead is an awesome stadium that has withstood the test of time. If renovations are really not going to make substantial improvements, then I think the best option is for the Royals to get a new smaller stadium in downtown KC, build a brand new stadium where the Royals play that is for the Chiefs, concerts and events. Then once complete the Chiefs can move over to the new stadium and Arrowhead can be demolished and something added like a few nice hotels to host visitors. I think the size of the place solely for the Chiefs would be awesome. Not sure if all the long term season ticket holders feel like Arrowhead is past it's prime and want more amenities they currently don't have. |
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Let the cheap ass Kansans support the Royals for a change
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