***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Shiver Me Timbers]

Originally Posted by O.city

#COVID19. Italian Higher Inst of Health: #SARSCoV2 viral RNA in Milan & Turin sewage 12-18-19. Confirmed in 2 labs, using 2 diff methods, using wastewater samples (N=40) &
compared to 24 controls. A full 6 wks before 1st known Italian cases. #epitwitter https://t.co/TCxiiZhhsu pic.twitter.com/RiXxZZXS5K

— Tatiana Prowell, MD (@tmprowell) June 22, 2020

This whole thing is just crazy.

The virus may have been spreading around China late last summer.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/09/coro...ard-study.html

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Shiver Me Timbers

The virus may have been spreading around China late last summer.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/09/coro...ard-study.html

No it wasn't.

[Strongside]

Got back from Florida last week.

Flying was basically the exact same experience it's always been, just in a mask.

Felt like an episode of Black Mirror.

We stayed in a remote home on a private beach, and aside from going into the bait shop or a grocery store, and interacting with the guide on our offshore fishing charter, I never came within 6' of a person outside of my family's party. So that was nice.

It was an excellent brain break, and a fantastic departure from the confines of home. Literally did nothing but drink, swim, sunbathe and fish for 10 days.

I will say, we drove around a lot just checking out the local surroundings and drove past several bars, outdoor patios, and restaurants, and I can 100% tell you that coastal Florida is the land of make-believe right now. It's like COVID never happened. Doesn't exist.

These places are ****ing PACKED. No distancing. Live music. No masks.

It's Jimmy Buffett time, and he ain't wearing no stinkin' mask!

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

No it wasn't.

It was spreading before December 2019.... If you dispute that, I don't know what to tell you.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

It was spreading before December 2019.... If you dispute that, I don't know what to tell you.

Prove it.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Prove it.

Ok,

It was clearly spreading in China before December. DONE! Wow, phew thought that would be harder.

[Shiver Me Timbers]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Prove it.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soci...se-traced-back

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Ok,

It was clearly spreading in China before December. DONE! Wow, phew thought that would be harder.

Spoiler!

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Shiver Me Timbers

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soci...se-traced-back

Government records suggest first person infected with new disease may have been a Hubei resident aged 55, but ‘patient zero’ has yet to be confirmed

Stopped reading there.

[BleedingRed]

Lmao Discuss if you think COVID19 popped up at end of December you need help. Because NO ONE in or out of the scientific community will believe you.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Wait till you hear about heart disease numbers.

Oddly enough, 2 or more things can be deadly all at the same time.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Oddly enough, 2 or more things can be deadly all at the same time.

This is true, in fact I heard if you have them both its worse.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

This is true, in fact I heard if you have them both its worse.

People have said that.

I know you guys are dying to place things on a sliding scale to minimize and maximize things to your liking, but something taking more lives doesn't really change the significance of COVID-19.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

People have said that.

I know you guys are dying to place things on a sliding scale to minimize and maximize things to your liking, but something taking more lives doesn't really change the significance of COVID-19.

no but it does put things in perspective. Along with mortality rates based on age.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

no but it does put things in perspective. Along with mortality rates based on age.

No, it really doesn't.

It's a deadly disease. Move on.