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Old 08-12-2014, 04:26 PM  
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Old 12-23-2021, 11:13 AM   #40381
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The Broncos aren't winning and they don't have a QB. The Pro Bowl is a popularity contest. We will probably have more 1st and 2nd Team All-Pro's than Pro Bowlers.
If you had anything close to a top 5 roster, you'd have some Pro Bowlers. The 2012 Chiefs that finished 2-14 had several Pro Bowlers.

Have you noticed that virtually every QB who has played in Denver in recent years has looked better elsewhere? Strange.
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Old 12-23-2021, 11:15 AM   #40382
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How do you take a "top 5 roster" and go 7-7 through 14 games and sit in last place in the division?
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Old 12-23-2021, 11:25 AM   #40383
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How do you take a "top 5 roster" and go 7-7 through 14 games and sit in last place in the division?
Are you sure it wasn’t a typo? Perhaps he meant a top 5 rooster? I might buy the rooster claim. The roster statement is absurd.
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Old 12-23-2021, 11:36 AM   #40384
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You're basing that off of him being in Minnesota when they signed Cousins? They made Cousins the highest paid QB in the league, hoping that he would get them from the NFCCG to the Super Bowl. That was pretty risky. As was spending first round picks on Bridgewater and Christian Ponder. They also aggressively pursued, and acquired Favre.

The Vikings have taken big swings at QB. They've hit on some, whiffed on others. But they tried. Many times.
I'm basing that off of his Carl Peterson-like decision making.

A shutdown corner (if Surtain even is that... right now it's debateable given he's been thrown on dozens of times this season) will win you precisely jack and shit in this league.
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You're basing that off of him being in Minnesota when they signed Cousins? They made Cousins the highest paid QB in the league, hoping that he would get them from the NFCCG to the Super Bowl. That was pretty risky. As was spending first round picks on Bridgewater and Christian Ponder. They also aggressively pursued, and acquired Favre.

The Vikings have taken big swings at QB. They've hit on some, whiffed on others. But they tried. Many times.
Going from Keenum to Cousins was not "risky"
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Old 12-23-2021, 12:31 PM   #40386
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Veach got that with his draft picks this year. Baller
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Old 12-23-2021, 12:50 PM   #40387
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Veach got that with his draft picks this year. Baller
top 10 RG taken in the 6th round!

ETA - with time to develop!
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Old 12-23-2021, 12:59 PM   #40388
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Are you sure it wasn’t a typo? Perhaps he meant a top 5 rooster? I might buy the rooster claim. The roster statement is absurd.
Might have been stoned out of his mind too, I mean it is Colorado.
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Old 12-23-2021, 01:03 PM   #40389
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If you had anything close to a top 5 roster, you'd have some Pro Bowlers. The 2012 Chiefs that finished 2-14 had several Pro Bowlers.

Have you noticed that virtually every QB who has played in Denver in recent years has looked better elsewhere? Strange.
Teddy Bridgewater has had his best year of his career.
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Going from Keenum to Cousins was not "risky"
Making him the highest paid QB was risky. I didn't want Denver to do it.
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Teddy Bridgewater has had his best year of his career.
Must be all of that "top 5 roster" talent around him. You gotta be excited with that 7-7 record.
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Teddy Bridgewater has had his best year of his career.
Yet you are blaming him for your lack of pro bowlers on a "Top 5" roster. You need to stay consistent. If he has had the best year of his career then Denver should have more people in the pro bowl.
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Veach pretty much nailed the last two drafts, and he's killed it in FA and trades.

But maybe our expectations for our GM just aren't as high as, say, a fan of a top 5 roster.
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Teddy Bridgewater has had his best year of his career.
Has he? He threw for way more yards last year and was more efficient.

How 'bout Keenum and Flacco?
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Veach got that with his draft picks this year. Baller
Next Revis.
Next Terrell Davis.
Next elite guard in Quinn Meinerz.
Johnathon Cooper.
Caden Sterns.
Baron Browning
Jonas Griffith (Who Paton traded a 7th rounder for, and who has a PFF grade 18 points higher than the 2nd round ILB Let's Reach drafted in 2021, and 32 points higher than the 2nd round ILB Let's Reach drafted in 2020)
Kenny Young

Paton also drafted a corner in the 7th round and flipped him for a 6th rounder next year. Everything Paton did this year worked out. Just wait and see what he does next.
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