***Official 2020 STL Cardinals Thread***

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

One non-Cardinals issue that I don't get it why are the players not being punished for cheating?

Knowing whether a fastball or off speed stuff is coming is a HUGE advantage to a hitter. To get that information through electronic means is a line that was crossed.

Pete Rose never cheated to win a game. He bet on his own team to win. Wrong, yeah but lifetime ban. These players that cheated are getting off without any punishment. Why?

The players were told before the investigation started they wouldn't be punished because they wanted them to cooperate, they felt that if they handed down punishments no one would say anything.

Also they are very close to having to negotiate a new CBA and this would cause a massive issues with the players union.

To add to your other point, anything involving gambling is going to be punished much much harder than stealing signs to win a game.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Mecca

The players were told before the investigation started they wouldn't be punished because they wanted them to cooperate, they felt that if they handed down punishments no one would say anything.

Also they are very close to having to negotiate a new CBA and this would cause a massive issues with the players union.

To add to your other point, anything involving gambling is going to be punished much much harder than stealing signs to win a game.

So they turned "state witness's" against their coaches to get off of punishment? is this public info or what you think happened?

Originally Posted by Mecca

To add to your other point, anything involving gambling is going to be punished much much harder than stealing signs to win a game.

In general, I agree but doesn't mean that cheating at this level, that influences that game so much goes unpunished, its going to happen again. I could set something up right now using simple bluetooth tech for the players that no one would ever find on them with a physical search.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

So they turned "state witness's" against their coaches to get off of punishment? is this public info or what you think happened?

No it did happen, I read on ESPN that the players were all told they would be given no punishment, it was their way of getting them to speak on the issue. If anyone involved would get punished why would any of them have ever said anything?

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Mecca

No it did happen, I read on ESPN that the players were all told they would be given no punishment, it was their way of getting them to speak on the issue. If anyone involved would get punished why would any of them have ever said anything?

I didnt mean to question your info, just asked to make sure its public info now.

Also I can get film from your catchers and coaches signals for years. Thrown those data points into big data and use A.I. analytics to tell you what is used for the key to change the signs, what is usually the sign for this or that.

MLB cant stick their heads in the sand. This tech is easily available now for any john doe off the street. Some team is going to use it.

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

One non-Cardinals issue that I don't get it why are the players not being punished for cheating?....

'Cause there are too many of them.