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Old 09-27-2021, 01:58 PM  
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Old 10-01-2021, 06:08 PM   #856
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I was watching a lot of Josh Gordon last night. After watching some of his interviews etc, it's easy to see why he gets so many 2nd chances.

When people think of addicts they think of introverts, dummies, someone who may have a disheveled personality. Images of "thugs" (****ing hate that word) may creep into your head.

Gordon is smart. Charismatic. Takes ownership. Articulate. He's honest. It's easy to see why people would view him as a good guy that fell into bad circumstances and could be helped.

Hard Knocks showed him to be pretty smart. Drugs are powerful.


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Old 10-01-2021, 06:11 PM   #857
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Old 10-01-2021, 07:38 PM   #858
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Me too. It's not his freaking fault cancer broke his body down.

He was clearly done. He probably had no business being on the team that last season.
ya I agree with that. Berry could have gone down as one of the greatest. Cancer, injuries derailed his career. But when he was healthy, he was GREAT.
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Old 10-01-2021, 07:42 PM   #859
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It saddens me that so many people hate him now because of his last season.
Yea, it’s one thing to be annoyed at the time by all of it, but it’s another to hate the guy because of it.
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Old 10-01-2021, 10:08 PM   #860
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ya I agree with that. Berry could have gone down as one of the greatest. Cancer, injuries derailed his career. But when he was healthy, he was GREAT.
He was elite until his body failed him. He would have been an all timer.
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Old 10-02-2021, 05:56 AM   #861
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Hard Knocks showed him to be pretty smart. Drugs are powerful.


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A big part of it is that our society views addiction as a moral failing.
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Old 10-02-2021, 06:26 AM   #862
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DT was probably hungover after banging strippers.
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Old 10-02-2021, 06:30 AM   #863
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A big part of it is that our society views addiction as a moral failing.

Lack of empathy.

For those who do NOT struggle with addiction, it’s easy to compare themself and their choices to an addict and judge them weak or inadequate because they can’t just … not … like it may be easy for the non-addict.

We’re a square hole society. Too many squares do not accept the differences in the round pegs.
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Old 10-02-2021, 06:33 AM   #864
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Makes sense to me. He always played like he had been up all night partying.
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Lack of empathy.
It's more than that. There is a severe lack of understanding about addiction and how it works.
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Old 10-02-2021, 06:41 AM   #866
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It's more than that. There is a severe lack of understanding about addiction and how it works.

True. Lack of empathy prevents many from seeking to understand, too.
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Old 10-02-2021, 07:56 AM   #867
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Old 10-02-2021, 08:12 AM   #868
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If safeties are going to play high and play us conservative, quick slants and screens to Gordon will be there all ****ing day
Would be great to be able to do that along with having a RB who could break tackles and take it to the house with the Safeties out if the way...
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Old 10-02-2021, 08:14 AM   #869
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Would be great to be able to do that along with having a RB who could break tackles with the Safeties out if the way...
Clyde can break tackles he just doesn’t have the speed to turn a 10-yard gain into a house call.
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Bro, I’ve shared this many times on here, but I went to every training camp from 2002-present (exception being covid 2020) and every year Tony would avoid signing for anyone and even went as far as to mess with the kids at camp by starting to walk over to the crowd of kids chanting his name with outstretched arms asking for moments if his time to sign something they could put on there wall to always remember…he would get 15-20 feet away and then wave and jog off. He was the worst I have ever seen at it. He literally couldn’t give a shit about fans, at all.

Perception isn’t always reality with these guys.
These type of experiences are told many times, so the general idea of these interactions with him have to be true.

I have a total different experience with Tony G. that I've also posted on here several times. I did some work for his charity while doing some Chiefs Coalition stuff. I spent hours with him. I went to his home on the plaza 3 times. October brought me drinks while we were planning logistics of the charity event, couldn't have been nicer having a stranger in her home. I saw him at the charity events sign everything for a long time. Just my experience.
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