***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[TLO]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

They are 3-4x more likely to die compared to their share of the population.

That's what I assumed, but didn't want to jump the gun.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Originally Posted by Donger

Looks like we'll end up with ~29,000 new cases today. Close to 2,000 deaths. We knew this was coming, but damn, that's a lot of people. We lost 2,400 Americans at Pearl Harbor.

How are we flattening out with those kind of numbers?

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

How are we flattening out with those kind of numbers?

You have to look at the bigger picture. Hospitalizations of new cases, ICU admissions, etc. All signs point that those things are going in the right direction in a lot of places. This will mean lower death rates in a week or two.

We still have multiple days ahead of very high death totals, unfortunately.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

How are we flattening out with those kind of numbers?

New case growth is showing signs of doing that. Deaths, of course, lag behind that.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

How are we flattening out with those kind of numbers?

Deaths are a lagging indicator. In theory, you can have infections declining while deaths are increasing because it takes over a week from infection to death.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by KS Smitty

Kansas the government may have taken steps 3 weeks ago but I can tell you for a fact that the people in the Manhattan area only started taking it seriously this week. No slowdown of travel, little to no social distancing, no protective gear nada. This week a person tested positive that had been to a local grocery store and Walmart and some people are wearing masks now but they sure as hell aren't staying home. Most cases were travel related but now community spread is happening and most folks are more concerned.

That's what I was told is happening here. The medical community is still expecting, and preparing for a surge. And I'm fine with that. Not the time to let our guard down.

But most people here took it seriously right away and did their part. It's an extremely noticeable difference, almost eerie at times. Would be nice to get a payoff for the sacrifices we have all made.

[ChiliConCarnage]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

How are we flattening out with those kind of numbers?

New cases are flattening. Deaths lag new cases unfortunately

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Some people like to make bold predictions just so they can say they were right if it happened that way. Some just want to freak out over anything...and here's the perfect thing for them. Some have other agendas...ifyouknowhatImean. And who knows, it still could. It's not over with yet. Doesn't seem worth obsessing over either way.

Who is freaking out? Im proud of how Americans have social distanced themselves and kept the numbers from exploding.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Thanks Smart People!

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Who is freaking out? Im proud of how Americans have social distanced themselves and kept the numbers from exploding.

Nobody really is at the moment, but I seem to remember one particular person screaming NATIONAL LOCKDOWN 100 times a day on here not too long ago. And it's not just on this board, they're out there.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Who is freaking out? Im proud of how Americans have social distanced themselves and kept the numbers from exploding.

I'm still moderately freaking out. Not as severe as before, making progress.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by TLO

I'm still moderately freaking out. Not as severe as before, making progress.

OH YEAH THAT^GUY

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

OH YEAH THAT^GUY

Guilty. Though I'm not the "NATIONAL LOCKDOWN" guy you are referencing.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by TLO

Guilty. Though I'm not the "NATIONAL LOCKDOWN" guy you are referencing.

Oh, we all know who I was referring to. Thankfully the mods took him down with a tranquilizer dart.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by TLO

I'm still moderately freaking out. Not as severe as before, making progress.

Stay strong man. We'll get through this