Spiderman: Far From Home

[Setsuna]

Originally Posted by bowener

SNIP

I feel like you're trying to say something....just can't quite put my finger on it though. Need more elaboration from you.

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by bowener

Everybody bitching about comics and what they think is a new trend in taking on social justice issues is laughable. What the **** do you think comics were doing throughout their entire existence? Other than maybe the early Superman and early Batman, they were taking on social issues of the time. Stan Lee himself said so many times that he was trying to bring awareness of the issues forward. I guess you hate Stan Lee for that? Shit, wait, Superman was actually kicking Nazi ass before the US even declared war. A large number of Americans supported Germany before we joined, so Siegel and Shuster must have been pissing those people off with their view of social issues.

Deep down why do you care if the newest version of MJ isn't white? Why is that so upsetting to you? Seriously, why?

Peter goes to a ****ing inner city school and somehow historically all his classmates are ****ing white... that is the least realistic thing in a series about a human gaining spider power.

This came up in the spiderverse thread too. Somebody was pissed that Doc Oc in an alternate universe was female, and that iconic characters shouldn't be altered, yet they weren't bitching at all about the giant ****ing dragon version of Green Goblin.

For **** sake, the X-Men comics are nearly entirely about treating everybody as equal and not judging them by their appearance or physical abilities. WTF do you think that is about?

Perfect. I loved the recent X-Men Red run btw.

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by bowener

Everybody bitching about comics and what they think is a new trend in taking on social justice issues is laughable. What the **** do you think comics were doing throughout their entire existence? Other than maybe the early Superman and early Batman, they were taking on social issues of the time. Stan Lee himself said so many times that he was trying to bring awareness of the issues forward. I guess you hate Stan Lee for that? Shit, wait, Superman was actually kicking Nazi ass before the US even declared war. A large number of Americans supported Germany before we joined, so Siegel and Shuster must have been pissing those people off with their view of social issues.

Deep down why do you care if the newest version of MJ isn't white? Why is that so upsetting to you? Seriously, why?

Peter goes to a ****ing inner city school and somehow historically all his classmates are ****ing white... that is the least realistic thing in a series about a human gaining spider power.

This came up in the spiderverse thread too. Somebody was pissed that Doc Oc in an alternate universe was female, and that iconic characters shouldn't be altered, yet they weren't bitching at all about the giant ****ing dragon version of Green Goblin.

For **** sake, the X-Men comics are nearly entirely about treating everybody as equal and not judging them by their appearance or physical abilities. WTF do you think that is about?

You know how I know you are an idiot? You conflate SJW issues with the Civil Rights movement.

[bowener]

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

You know how I know you are an idiot? You conflate SJW issues with the Civil Rights movement.

I'm hoping this is a troll comment because you can't be this ****ing stupid, but then maybe you are.

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by bowener

I'm hoping this is a troll comment because you can't be this ****ing stupid, but then maybe you are.

One is totally made up (SJW searching for "issues" to be outraged about), one is based in reality of actual injustice.

There are actual issues in our world today that need addressed. Lazy writing from SJW lunatics isn't doing anything of the sort.

[LanTera]

Well I think this movie would be great. Misterio 100% would be the villain, who would use a lot of illusions

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by bowener

Everybody bitching about comics and what they think is a new trend in taking on social justice issues is laughable. What the **** do you think comics were doing throughout their entire existence? Other than maybe the early Superman and early Batman, they were taking on social issues of the time. Stan Lee himself said so many times that he was trying to bring awareness of the issues forward. I guess you hate Stan Lee for that? Shit, wait, Superman was actually kicking Nazi ass before the US even declared war. A large number of Americans supported Germany before we joined, so Siegel and Shuster must have been pissing those people off with their view of social issues.

Deep down why do you care if the newest version of MJ isn't white? Why is that so upsetting to you? Seriously, why?

Peter goes to a ****ing inner city school and somehow historically all his classmates are ****ing white... that is the least realistic thing in a series about a human gaining spider power.

This came up in the spiderverse thread too. Somebody was pissed that Doc Oc in an alternate universe was female, and that iconic characters shouldn't be altered, yet they weren't bitching at all about the giant ****ing dragon version of Green Goblin.

For **** sake, the X-Men comics are nearly entirely about treating everybody as equal and not judging them by their appearance or physical abilities. WTF do you think that is about?

It's a visual medium, and I didn't recognize the character because she's not a smoking hot pale skinned red head. I happen to like smoking hot pale skinned red heads.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by listopencil

It's a visual medium, and I didn't recognize the character because she's not a smoking hot pale skinned red head. I happen to like smoking hot pale skinned red heads.

Exactly. That's her whole thing.

It makes as much sense as making Storm a white gal from Wisconsin or Wolverine from Mexico.

Yes, it actually is important to the character.

And if "race doesn't matter" why are the constantly changing it? I mean, that's the point is that it shouldn't matter what race you are, right? So why change it?

[Sorry]

Originally Posted by Rausch

Exactly. That's her whole thing.

It makes as much sense as making Storm a white gal from Wisconsin or Wolverine from Mexico.

Yes, it actually is important to the character.

And if "race doesn't matter" why are the constantly changing it? I mean, that's the point is that it shouldn't matter what race you are, right? So why change it?

Because people of other ethnicities want heros they can relate too. Why can't super man be Asian? He's an aloen after all

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by Sorry

Because people of other ethnicities want heros they can relate too. Why can't super man be Asian? He's an aloen after all

So make new heroes who fit that mold. Leave existing characters as they have always been. Changing them is just pandering and if not for the movies would have bankrupted Marvel.

[keg in kc]

It's kind of like people bitching about progressive politics and 'sjw bullshit' on Star Trek Discovery. Like...hello. Star Trek. Progressive since 1965.

[Gravedigger]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

It's kind of like people bitching about progressive politics and 'sjw bullshit' on Star Trek Discovery. Like...hello. Star Trek. Progressive since 1965.

I think Bill Shatner's penis was nicknamed "Progressive".

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

It's kind of like people bitching about progressive politics and 'sjw bullshit' on Star Trek Discovery. Like...hello. Star Trek. Progressive since 1965.

Another idiot. Conflating SJW bullcrap with the Civil Rights movement.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

It's kind of like people bitching about progressive politics and 'sjw bullshit' on Star Trek Discovery. Like...hello. Star Trek. Progressive since 1965.

There's a big difference between raising issues of social justice and being an SJW.

Women's suffrage, the civil rights movement, slavery: all legit social justice issues.

Free tampons, imaginary genders, and fanatical hatred of anything dissimilar are completely different.

SJW's are a complete perversion of liberalism and "tolerance." It's not a one sided problem: republicans hijacked morality in the 80's and 90's to suppress free speech in music and media. Now the Dems are.