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Old 04-27-2017, 07:19 PM  
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*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****
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Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy!
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Old 11-04-2022, 09:37 AM   #34531
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Right.

But it's his fantasy value that actually fuels all the gushing the talking heads do. Like him being the Bills' leading rusher every week is actually a GOOD thing.
It’s a good thing until the injuries pile up like they did for Cam Newton.
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Old 11-04-2022, 09:40 AM   #34532
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It’s a good thing until the injuries pile up like they did for Cam Newton.
Personally, I think leaning on a QB to run so much exposes a flaw in the offense somewhere. Lamar runs because he isn't a great pocket passer. Allen runs because they don't have a running game otherwise. And so on.

I much prefer a guy like Mahomes, who CAN run but would rather dial it up with his arm.
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Old 11-04-2022, 09:46 AM   #34533
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Personally, I think leaning on a QB to run so much exposes a flaw in the offense somewhere. Lamar runs because he isn't a great pocket passer. Allen runs because they don't have a running game otherwise. And so on.

I much prefer a guy like Mahomes, who CAN run but would rather dial it up with his arm.
Buffalo’s run game looks good enough without Allen from what I’ve seen. But it’s hard to defend those QB run plays, so it’s understandable why they do it.
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Old 11-04-2022, 09:48 AM   #34534
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Personally, I think leaning on a QB to run so much exposes a flaw in the offense somewhere. Lamar runs because he isn't a great pocket passer. Allen runs because they don't have a running game otherwise. And so on.

I much prefer a guy like Mahomes, who CAN run but would rather dial it up with his arm.
Exactly. I am all for QBs scrambling and having the ability to pick up yards when they do it, but designed runs are a great way to shorten a QBs career.
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Old 11-04-2022, 09:52 AM   #34535
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Buffalo’s run game looks good enough without Allen from what I’ve seen. But it’s hard to defend those QB run plays, so it’s understandable why they do it.
The designed QB runs open up the rest of the running game. If Buffalo were forced to line up and play a traditional running scheme, they lack the ability to do it. Kind of like the Chiefs, honestly.
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Old 11-04-2022, 10:04 AM   #34536
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The designed QB runs open up the rest of the running game. If Buffalo were forced to line up and play a traditional running scheme, they lack the ability to do it. Kind of like the Chiefs, honestly.
I really think the Chiefs could do it if they ran a power run scheme. Get away from the zone/rpo game and I think they could do pretty well.
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Old 11-04-2022, 10:58 AM   #34537
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Old 11-04-2022, 11:04 AM   #34538
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It’s a good thing until the injuries pile up like they did for Cam Newton.
Cam Allen a coming. He will not hold up taking these hits in meaningless regular season games. Look at the QBs in NFL history with longevity and it sure isn't idiots like this
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Old 11-04-2022, 11:15 AM   #34539
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Cam Allen a coming. He will not hold up taking these hits in meaningless regular season games. Look at the QBs in NFL history with longevity and it sure isn't idiots like this
Especially considering he is the Anti Lamar. Lamar avoids contact, Allen seeks it out.
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Old 11-04-2022, 11:41 AM   #34541
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Buffalo’s run game looks good enough without Allen from what I’ve seen. But it’s hard to defend those QB run plays, so it’s understandable why they do it.
They also seem to keep calling them at questionable times...like after the game is well out of reach for their opponent. I'd save that shit for the playoffs myself.
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Using PPR, that's correct.
That's correct for any fantasy football league I've ever been in, PPR or not.
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Old 11-04-2022, 12:01 PM   #34543
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This should get some people stewing.

Fantasy football & Josh Allen is the king of that.


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They also seem to keep calling them at questionable times...like after the game is well out of reach for their opponent. I'd save that shit for the playoffs myself.
Agreed 1,000%. I would try to save Allen’s designed rushing attempts for the 4th quarter of very close games and obviously the playoffs. Doesn’t make sense to do that stuff against inferior opponents in regular season games that quickly turn into blowout status.
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Right but look at the gap between Allen and Mahomes.

Still doesn't bother me.

Any league I've ever been in awards QBs 1 point per 25 passing yards and 4 points per passing TD while they gain 1 point per 10 rushing yards and 6 points for every rushing TD.

Pat is generally a better, more efficient passer, but Allen runs a ****ton more, especially around the goal line.
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