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Old 09-23-2022, 10:55 AM   #2
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Only concern I have it not being able to fit in all my new dress shirts I've recently purchased.



Yeah that could be weird. I could probably get my wife to do the pinning.

I still want to do the legal TRT route soon too. I just know how good people say they feel on Test as it's mood enhancing, not aggression boosting like so many people think. My biggest drawback is the history of hypertension that runs in my family and that I've been treated for a decade for already. It's under control with medication but it is worrisome adding something like this.
If your current meds control your BP OK then you should be fine. It can also make your cholesterol increase as well so you might have to treat that later.

I am on a half dose of Benicar and low does of Crestor and both stay completely in check.

As far as pinning I alternate quads. It is uncomfortable the first few times but quickly becomes part of routine.
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Old 09-23-2022, 12:51 PM   #3
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Only concern I have it not being able to fit in all my new dress shirts I've recently purchased.



Yeah that could be weird. I could probably get my wife to do the pinning.

I still want to do the legal TRT route soon too. I just know how good people say they feel on Test as it's mood enhancing, not aggression boosting like so many people think. My biggest drawback is the history of hypertension that runs in my family and that I've been treated for a decade for already. It's under control with medication but it is worrisome adding something like this.
Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakn' huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.
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Old 09-23-2022, 12:56 PM   #4
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Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakn' huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.
Not going to happen with just Test.
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Old 09-24-2022, 02:04 PM   #5
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Not going to happen with just Test.
Well tight enough to a layman if he keeps e2 under control. Maybe not to IFBB standards without mast or winny or something.
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Old 09-24-2022, 10:59 AM   #6
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Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakn' huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.
Yeah, I'm just looking for a little boost and some added muscle. Not wanting to do anything crazy at this point in my life.
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Old 09-24-2022, 02:11 PM   #7
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Yeah, I'm just looking for a little boost and some added muscle. Not wanting to do anything crazy at this point in my life.
What are your big 3 lift number at now and what are your goals?
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Old 09-22-2022, 11:09 AM   #8
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Old 09-22-2022, 11:56 AM   #9
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Look forward to making Lew rage and break his keyboard

Nah, test is pretty nice in that regard and it generally makes you feel good, not ragey (unless you are already one of those rage assholes).
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Old 09-23-2022, 11:13 AM   #10
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Nah, test is pretty nice in that regard and it generally makes you feel good, not ragey (unless you are already one of those rage assholes).
Aren't u at a bigger risk for cancer (and some negative cardiovascular events) if you supplement with Testosterone? I know it doesn't cause cancer but so many ppl have cancer and walk around years and years before they even know it. The worry would be cancer blows up to a stage that is no longer easily treatable.

Pardon my ignorance..been out of the real workout game for a decade now.
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Old 09-23-2022, 11:49 AM   #11
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Aren't u at a bigger risk for cancer (and some negative cardiovascular events) if you supplement with Testosterone? I know it doesn't cause cancer but so many ppl have cancer and walk around years and years before they even know it. The worry would be cancer blows up to a stage that is no longer easily treatable.

Pardon my ignorance..been out of the real workout game for a decade now.
Test may raise the risk a little but HGH is the one that will cause cancer to take off rapidly if you already have it manifested in your body.
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Old 09-24-2022, 02:02 PM   #12
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Aren't u at a bigger risk for cancer (and some negative cardiovascular events) if you supplement with Testosterone? I know it doesn't cause cancer but so many ppl have cancer and walk around years and years before they even know it. The worry would be cancer blows up to a stage that is no longer easily treatable.

Pardon my ignorance..been out of the real workout game for a decade now.
Cardo events? That's debatable if you are just doing physiological amounts with TRT. You'd be at no higher risk than n average Joe with normal test levels.

Bodybuilder cycle dosages? Yes, much more cardiovascular risk. Cancer, not so much aside from prostate, but the risk there is easily monitored via PSA. Overall, there are tons of ways to monitor what is going on through blood work and there is no excuse to let it get out of hand. It's easy enough to avoid or head off if you pay attention and take care.



The cancer risk comes from GH and resulting increases in IGF-1, which causes hyperplasia in all available cells, including any cancer cells that might be present. It doesn't actually create new cancer, but it dramatically speeds the growth od anywhere cancer that does happen to be already present.

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Old 04-09-2023, 10:25 PM   #13
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I lift 4 times a week as well trying to cut some more working on the deficit goal is 2,300 cals a day. Is this adequate for cardio?
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Old 04-10-2023, 10:03 AM   #14
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I lift 4 times a week as well trying to cut some more working on the deficit goal is 2,300 cals a day. Is this adequate for cardio?
Steps isn't a good measure of cardio. Get yoru heart rate elevated for 20 minutes a day and you are good as far as keeping your heart and lungs healthy.

If you are looking to cardio to cut then you are wasting your time. Lift more. A moderate 10 minute lifting session burns more calories than a 30 minute jog.
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Old 04-10-2023, 10:28 AM   #15
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Steps isn't a good measure of cardio. Get yoru heart rate elevated for 20 minutes a day and you are good as far as keeping your heart and lungs healthy.

If you are looking to cardio to cut then you are wasting your time. Lift more. A moderate 10 minute lifting session burns more calories than a 30 minute jog.
I walk a few miles every day though isn't walking still considered cardio?
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