Gronkowski announces retirement

[O.city]

Per his Instagram

[Best22]

Originally Posted by Red Dawg

I have just never been amazed by Brady. Non athletic and seems to have guys wide open a lot. He's a great leader and smart. Finds the right guy but he's had all the advantages you can have with coaching and a defense backing him up. He was awful this season and Bills defense and Fords stupidity bailed him out. Not many SB seasons were becaue of him. They were defense led.

Brady has been lucky and unlucky. I think it all evens out.

Great accuracy, mechanics, extremely smart, best field general ever. The only thing he lacks is good mobility and a cannon arm. But he still has good velocity (always has) on his throws and his touch (like we saw in the SB) on some of his passes is ridiculous. He’s slow, slow, slow, but that’s usually okay as he’s smart and has great pocket presence. He’s been in the league for the same number of seasons as Brees yet has more rushing yards.

Brady is the pinnacle of NFL quarterback play in my mind

[Angry fan]

Originally Posted by RobertWeathers

...and even Jerry Rice put up monster numbers with Steve Bono, Jeff Garcia and Grbac throwing him the ball.

Cheaters using stickum always gets the ball .

I fixed it for you, Mr. Weatherman!

Oh and Hi Mr. Weatherman!

Now that you've returned, tell us, are you ok with your owner supporting human slavery? Do you think it's ok to profess ignorance? Should Bob Kraft step down? Would it make a difference? Or does Bob take his son as well sometimes?

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Angry fan

I fixed it for you, Mr. Weatherman!

Oh and Hi Mr. Weatherman!

Now that you've returned, tell us, are you ok with your owner supporting human slavery? Do you think it's ok to profess ignorance? Should Bob Kraft step down? Would it make a difference? Or does Bob take his son as well sometimes?

OK that's funny.

[RobertWeathers]

Originally Posted by Angry fan

I fixed it for you, Mr. Weatherman!

Oh and Hi Mr. Weatherman!

Now that you've returned, tell us, are you ok with your owner supporting human slavery? Do you think it's ok to profess ignorance? Should Bob Kraft step down? Would it make a difference? Or does Bob take his son as well sometimes?

There was no evidence of sex trafficking and I dont think it crossed Bob's mind

Bob is playing legal games right now b/c he wants to keep the video out of the public eye as if Goody sees it he will be suspended.

Don't know about Jonathan partaking in rub n tugs.

Its all gross.

[Angry fan]

Originally Posted by Red Dawg

I have just never been amazed by Brady. Non athletic and seems to have guys wide open a lot. He's a great leader and smart. Finds the right guy but he's had all the advantages you can have with coaching and a defense backing him up. He was awful this season and Bills defense and Fords stupidity bailed him out. Not many SB seasons were becaue of him. They were defense led.

I'd say the bolded is pretty important. All I know is he does his job which is to lead the offense. I think you're judging him the same way talent evaluators judged him going into the 2000 NFL Draft.

Yes he's had all the advantages, etc, etc but he's taken advantage of it all. There's a lot of people in this world who have had similar advantages in different settings who have not done so.

One day you'll just have to let go of the hate and appreciate greatness when it's presented.

Can you imagine if this was teabagger winning all this? A terrible human being. Then I'd understand your hatred.

[Red Dawg]

Originally Posted by Angry fan

I'd say the bolded is pretty important. All I know is he does his job which is to lead the offense. I think you're judging him the same way talent evaluators judged him going into the 2000 NFL Draft.

Yes he's had all the advantages, etc, etc but he's taken advantage of it all. There's a lot of people in this world who have had similar advantages in different settings who have not done so.

One day you'll just have to let go of the hate and appreciate greatness when it's presented.

Can you imagine if this was teabagger winning all this? A terrible human being. Then I'd understand your hatred.

Not hatred. I just think much of his career is overblown as greatness instead of slightly over achieving, with some very good luck mixed in with cheating Bill helping. He got damn near all the credit this year and he was a bag of ass that should have lost at Arrowhead
Fords penalty changed the entire narrative of his shitty season.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by Red Dawg

Not hatred. I just think much of his career is overblown as greatness instead of slightly over achieving, with some very good luck mixed in with cheating Bill helping. He got damn near all the credit this year and he was a bag of ass that should have lost at Arrowhead
Fords penalty changed the entire narrative of his shitty season.

I don't think Brady got all the credit this year at all. He didnt win any awards so how did he get all the credit?

Also, to say he had a shitty season is ridiculous. He put up solid numbers during the regular season despite the Pats trash WRs and he was clutch against us.

[Red Dawg]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

I don't think Brady got all the credit this year at all. He didnt win any awards so how did he get all the credit?

Also, to say he had a shitty season is ridiculous. He put up solid numbers during the regular season despite the Pats trash WRs and he was clutch against us.

He threw 2 tds and 3 picks in the post season. Bills defense saved him a ton this season.

[Red Dawg]

Not to mention the crap division that hands him a home playoff game every year. If he played in any other didviosn his career would be much different.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by Red Dawg

He threw 2 tds and 3 picks in the post season. Bills defense saved him a ton this season.

He doesnt have that many weapons on O though and he is way past his prime. He had basically Edelman, Gronk and a solid running game. Watkins makes more money than all the Pats WRs combined. Think about that.

As far as your comment about Pats division. That doesnt hold up cause if that was the case theyd lose in the playoffs every year.

I heard all year from guys like you how Mahomes was gonna light up the Pats and we'd beat an old Brady at Arrowhead come playoff time. Didnt happen did it? We all know how good Mahomes is. Brady led the Pats to a win at Arrowhead against the MVP. That's pretty damn hard to do.

I dont like the Pats but Brady is IMO the GOAT

[Red Dawg]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

He doesnt have that many weapons on O though and he is way past his prime. He had basically Edelman, Gronk and a solid running game. Watkins makes more money than all the Pats WRs combined. Think about that.

As far as your comment about Pats division. That doesnt hold up cause if that was the case theyd lose in the playoffs every year.

I dont like the Pats but Brady is a pretty impressive QB. I heard all year from guys like you how Mahomes was gonna light up the Pats and we'd beat an old Brady at Arrowhead. Didnt happen did it?

Ford ruined it. Brady threw his 3rd pick after Mahomes torched Bill in the second half. Brady got luckier than ever.

[Angry fan]

Originally Posted by RobertWeathers

There was no evidence of sex trafficking and I dont think it crossed Bob's mind

Bob is playing legal games right now b/c he wants to keep the video out of the public eye as if Goody sees it he will be suspended.

Don't know about Jonathan partaking in rub n tugs.

Its all gross.

No evidence of sex trafficking? Where do you think Bob was going, Mr. Weatherman. For shame! Defending him like that.

[Angry fan]

Originally Posted by Red Dawg

Ford ruined it. Brady threw his 3rd pick after Mahomes torched Bill in the second half. Brady got luckier than ever.

Preparation meets opportunity.

[Buehler445]

I'll take Gonzo (I don't know where this TGon hogshit came from). I'll make this assertion because I've watched the two of them play.

Gronk is a ridiculous physical talent, but I'll take Gonzo.

Kthxbye.

[GloryDayz]

Well...........bye........