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htismaqe · 02-10-2021, 10:00 AM

I trie to trade down 4-5 spots but couldn't get a suitable deal. I just gave up.

duncan_idaho · 02-10-2021, 10:15 AM

So here's a mock built around the idea of taking Freiermuth first.

The key thing here is, if you do this you are changing your starting personnel. KC shifts to a team that runs 12 personnel as its primary personnel grouping, rather than 11.

31. Pat Freiermuth, TE, Penn State
70. (trade) Walker Little, OT, Stanford
94. Quinn Meinerz, C, Wisconsin-Whitewater
136. Paulson Adebo, CB< Stanford
144. Wiliam Bradley-King, DE, Baylor
157. (trade) Richard LeCounte, S, Georgia
176. Khalil Herbert, RB, Va. Tech
180. Dez Fitzpatrick, WR, Louisville
256. Wyatt Hubert, DE, Kansas State

You'd have to address a starting DE AND at least a fill-in LT in free agency.

But I could see something like this being a logical evolution of the Chiefs-Reid offense, considering what teams are trying to do to Mahomes. In Freiermuth, you gain a TE who is an excellent blocker and who can be a real weapon in the middle of the field.

Running a 12 set as your primary offense, whether from shotgun or under center, would set KC up to really take advantage of teams dropping two safeties deep and dictate the matchups.

It all pins on how you evaluate Freiermuth, though. Is that someone ready to kick in Day 1 and play starters snaps? Is he as good as a receiver as thought?

htismaqe · 02-10-2021, 10:18 AM

I like this draft but I just don't see Reid making such a radical change.

Joshuabmayer · 02-10-2021, 12:05 PM

I'm done a bunch of mocks and just trying this out. I went with 3 OL because Chiefs needs more support up front.

31.
Gregory Rousseau
EDGE, Miami

63.
Trey Smith
IOL, Tennessee

94.
Hunter Long
TE, Boston College

135.
Joshuah Bledsoe
S, Missouri

174.
Josh Imatorbhebhe
WR, Illinois

176.
Sadarius Hutcherson
IOL, South Carolina

180.
Brenden Jaimes
OT, Nebraska

212.
Carlo Kemp
IDL, Michigan

Couch-Potato · 02-10-2021, 04:24 PM

31.

Kansas City Chiefs
Jaelan Phillips
EDGE, Miami
63.

Kansas City Chiefs
Amon-Ra St. Brown
WR, USC
94.

Kansas City Chiefs
Walker Little
OT, Stanford
135.

Kansas City Chiefs
Javian Hawkins
RB, Louisville
174.

Kansas City Chiefs
Simi Fehoko
WR, Stanford
176.

Kansas City Chiefs
Drake Jackson
IOL, Kentucky
180.

Kansas City Chiefs
Kelvin Joseph
CB, Kentucky
212.

Kansas City Chiefs
Naquan Jones
IDL, Michigan State

caseyl4200 · 02-10-2021, 05:43 PM

31. Nick Bolton, LB Missouri
63. Jay Tufele, IDL, USC
94. Jackson Carman, OT, Clemson Probably move to Guard
135. Rashad Weaver, DE/Edge, Pitt
174 Kenny Yeboah, TE, Ole Miss
176. Cole Van Lanen, OT, Wisconsin
180. Josh IMatorbhebhe, WR, Illinois
212. Joshua Kaindoh, DE/Edge, Florida State - 6'7" 147 lb hope he can gain weight!

Chris Meck · 02-11-2021, 07:58 PM

ran one de-emphasizing OT as some of y'all think just to see what happens.

I guess if we went this route, they'd sign someone like Jason Peters to hold down the fort until Fisher gets back and start Niang at RT.

If those things happen, this draft is pretty killer.

KC
51.

Terrace Marshall Jr.
WR LSU
Sammy who?
KC
63.

Rashad Weaver
EDGE Pitt
KC
Should be a solid LDE with plus pass rush capability. Spags prototype.
74.

Creed Humphrey
OC Oklahoma
Best interior lineman in the draft probably. Day one upgrade.
KC
86.

Joe Tryon
EDGE Washington
pass rush specialist in '21; Clark replacement down the road.
KC
136.

Austin Watkins
WR UAB
Another guy with similar skillset/physicality to Watkins
KC
144.

Divine Deablo
S Virginia Tech
Big, physical safety to finally upgrade the DD spot in this defense.
KC
147.

Paulson Adebo
CB Stanford
Spags prototype length and athleticism.
KC
176.

Jaylon Moore
OT Western Michigan
Is he a LT at this level? Probably not. Should be a good OG with the potential to play outside later.
KC
180.

Tre McKitty
TE Georgia
Really good receiver, decent blocker. A weapon to pair with Kelce/insurance policy.
KC
256.

Kayode Awosika
OT Buffalo
Reid likes to take college OT's and move them to guard. That's likely what happens here.

kccrow · 02-13-2021, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

ran one de-emphasizing OT as some of y'all think just to see what happens.

I guess if we went this route, they'd sign someone like Jason Peters to hold down the fort until Fisher gets back and start Niang at RT.

If those things happen, this draft is pretty killer.

KC
51.

Terrace Marshall Jr.
WR LSU
Sammy who?
KC
63.

Rashad Weaver
EDGE Pitt
KC
Should be a solid LDE with plus pass rush capability. Spags prototype.
74.

Creed Humphrey
OC Oklahoma
Best interior lineman in the draft probably. Day one upgrade.
KC
86.

Joe Tryon
EDGE Washington
pass rush specialist in '21; Clark replacement down the road.
KC
136.

Austin Watkins
WR UAB
Another guy with similar skillset/physicality to Watkins
KC
144.

Divine Deablo
S Virginia Tech
Big, physical safety to finally upgrade the DD spot in this defense.
KC
147.

Paulson Adebo
CB Stanford
Spags prototype length and athleticism.
KC
176.

Jaylon Moore
OT Western Michigan
Is he a LT at this level? Probably not. Should be a good OG with the potential to play outside later.
KC
180.

Tre McKitty
TE Georgia
Really good receiver, decent blocker. A weapon to pair with Kelce/insurance policy.
KC
256.

Kayode Awosika
OT Buffalo
Reid likes to take college OT's and move them to guard. That's likely what happens here.

Tryon at 86? Hmm. I've been putting him in 2 and am severely 2nd guessing that and am thinking he's a guy in play at 31. I have serious issues with their rankings on this site as it is, but this one seems WAY off.

Chris Meck · 02-13-2021, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow

Tryon at 86? Hmm. I've been putting him in 2 and am severely 2nd guessing that and am thinking he's a guy in play at 31. I have serious issues with their rankings on this site as it is, but this one seems WAY off.

I use the PFN mock mostly.

They update their player rankings pretty frequently.

htismaqe · 02-11-2021, 08:06 PM

That's actually a really good draft and somewhat realistic I think.

Chris Meck · 02-11-2021, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

That's actually a really good draft and somewhat realistic I think.

Well, assuming that something like a Peters/Fisher combo gets us through, and assuming that Niang shows up ready to go, then we upgrade several places with it.

Humphrey's almost a certain thing at this point.

Weaver and Tryon should upgrade the pass rush and allow Clark to actually take some breaks.

Marshall and A. Watkins both have a lot of potential at WR. Then you've got two Tyreek style burners and two Sammy style 'X' types.

Deablo I like a lot. Plus, I mean, his ****ing name is Devil. You gotta like that for a head-hunting dimebacker/box safety. If you're going to replace Dirty Dan, let's do with the ****ing devil. And then after every time he de-cleats some poor soul in the flat, they can play SHOUT AT THE DEVIL over the Arrowhead sound system.

I think Tre Mckitty is kind of undervalued. He's a little leaner than Kelce, but he's also faster. Still a willing blocker, but an actual weapon in the passing game.

shrug...

CatfishBob2 · 02-12-2021, 03:38 AM

I like Deablo too being a Hokie fan. I mocked him to us in my first go round. I see him as a more of a playmaker than head hunter of the Kam Chancellor mold....but he definitely could be a good replacement for Sorenson

kccrow · 02-13-2021, 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CatfishBob2

I like Deablo too being a Hokie fan. I mocked him to us in my first go round. I see him as a more of a playmaker than head hunter of the Kam Chancellor mold....but he definitely could be a good replacement for Sorenson

Agree. He definitely fits that hybrid 3rd S/WLB role well.

Chris Meck · 02-13-2021, 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow

Agree. He definitely fits that hybrid 3rd S/WLB role well.

He'd be an ideal Sorensen upgrade.

02-10-2021, 10:00 AM	#2
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02-10-2021, 10:15 AM	#3
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U duncan_idaho's Avatar Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City	So here's a mock built around the idea of taking Freiermuth first. The key thing here is, if you do this you are changing your starting personnel. KC shifts to a team that runs 12 personnel as its primary personnel grouping, rather than 11. 31. Pat Freiermuth, TE, Penn State 70. (trade) Walker Little, OT, Stanford 94. Quinn Meinerz, C, Wisconsin-Whitewater 136. Paulson Adebo, CB< Stanford 144. Wiliam Bradley-King, DE, Baylor 157. (trade) Richard LeCounte, S, Georgia 176. Khalil Herbert, RB, Va. Tech 180. Dez Fitzpatrick, WR, Louisville 256. Wyatt Hubert, DE, Kansas State You'd have to address a starting DE AND at least a fill-in LT in free agency. But I could see something like this being a logical evolution of the Chiefs-Reid offense, considering what teams are trying to do to Mahomes. In Freiermuth, you gain a TE who is an excellent blocker and who can be a real weapon in the middle of the field. Running a 12 set as your primary offense, whether from shotgun or under center, would set KC up to really take advantage of teams dropping two safeties deep and dictate the matchups. It all pins on how you evaluate Freiermuth, though. Is that someone ready to kick in Day 1 and play starters snaps? Is he as good as a receiver as thought?
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02-10-2021, 10:18 AM	#4
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! htismaqe's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet	I like this draft but I just don't see Reid making such a radical change.
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02-10-2021, 12:05 PM	#5
Joshuabmayer Starter Joshuabmayer's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Reading, PA	I'm done a bunch of mocks and just trying this out. I went with 3 OL because Chiefs needs more support up front. 31. Gregory Rousseau EDGE, Miami 63. Trey Smith IOL, Tennessee 94. Hunter Long TE, Boston College 135. Joshuah Bledsoe S, Missouri 174. Josh Imatorbhebhe WR, Illinois 176. Sadarius Hutcherson IOL, South Carolina 180. Brenden Jaimes OT, Nebraska 212. Carlo Kemp IDL, Michigan
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02-10-2021, 04:24 PM	#6
Couch-Potato MVP Couch-Potato's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2015	31. Kansas City Chiefs Jaelan Phillips EDGE, Miami 63. Kansas City Chiefs Amon-Ra St. Brown WR, USC 94. Kansas City Chiefs Walker Little OT, Stanford 135. Kansas City Chiefs Javian Hawkins RB, Louisville 174. Kansas City Chiefs Simi Fehoko WR, Stanford 176. Kansas City Chiefs Drake Jackson IOL, Kentucky 180. Kansas City Chiefs Kelvin Joseph CB, Kentucky 212. Kansas City Chiefs Naquan Jones IDL, Michigan State
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02-10-2021, 05:43 PM	#7
caseyl4200 Starter caseyl4200's Avatar Join Date: May 2017	31. Nick Bolton, LB Missouri 63. Jay Tufele, IDL, USC 94. Jackson Carman, OT, Clemson Probably move to Guard 135. Rashad Weaver, DE/Edge, Pitt 174 Kenny Yeboah, TE, Ole Miss 176. Cole Van Lanen, OT, Wisconsin 180. Josh IMatorbhebhe, WR, Illinois 212. Joshua Kaindoh, DE/Edge, Florida State - 6'7" 147 lb hope he can gain weight!
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02-11-2021, 07:58 PM	#8
Chris Meck MVP Chris Meck's Avatar Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC	ran one de-emphasizing OT as some of y'all think just to see what happens. I guess if we went this route, they'd sign someone like Jason Peters to hold down the fort until Fisher gets back and start Niang at RT. If those things happen, this draft is pretty killer. KC 51. Terrace Marshall Jr. WR LSU Sammy who? KC 63. Rashad Weaver EDGE Pitt KC Should be a solid LDE with plus pass rush capability. Spags prototype. 74. Creed Humphrey OC Oklahoma Best interior lineman in the draft probably. Day one upgrade. KC 86. Joe Tryon EDGE Washington pass rush specialist in '21; Clark replacement down the road. KC 136. Austin Watkins WR UAB Another guy with similar skillset/physicality to Watkins KC 144. Divine Deablo S Virginia Tech Big, physical safety to finally upgrade the DD spot in this defense. KC 147. Paulson Adebo CB Stanford Spags prototype length and athleticism. KC 176. Jaylon Moore OT Western Michigan Is he a LT at this level? Probably not. Should be a good OG with the potential to play outside later. KC 180. Tre McKitty TE Georgia Really good receiver, decent blocker. A weapon to pair with Kelce/insurance policy. KC 256. Kayode Awosika OT Buffalo Reid likes to take college OT's and move them to guard. That's likely what happens here.
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htismaqe 'Tis my eye! htismaqe's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet	That's actually a really good draft and somewhat realistic I think.
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02-12-2021, 03:38 AM	#13
CatfishBob2 Starter Join Date: Jan 2018	I like Deablo too being a Hokie fan. I mocked him to us in my first go round. I see him as a more of a playmaker than head hunter of the Kam Chancellor mold....but he definitely could be a good replacement for Sorenson
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