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Old 10-27-2020, 02:09 AM  
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Deshaun Watson is not a top 10 QB
Deshaun Watson is constantly getting praised as one of the best young QBs. Hell before the season people were saying he was 2nd best behind Mahomes. I'm here to tell you that he's not even in the top 10.

Deshaun Watson did have a bad GM in B.O.B, but he wasn't that bad as a coach. He always had the Texans respectable, but what he did to that franchise as a GM is senile. That doesn't mean he has to be the scape goat for every time Watson makes a mistake or can't close out a game. Watson was one of/if not the main reason for the playoff loss to the Chiefs. No elite QB is going to allow an opponent to run away with a game after being up 24-0. Another scape goat Watson has is his O line. He is terrible in the pocket and is the main reason for his high sack rate.

He has had success in his past seasons and it seems to me that a lot of that success was due to DeAndre Hopkins ability to catch everything that was anywhere close to him. He made that team so much better and was more important than Watson. Just look at this year what has happened in Houston. Hopkins got traded and the team literally fell apart and Watson has been absolute trash. Now how is he trash when he's on pace for 4800 yards and 34 TDs? He's a god damn garbage time all star, but he struts around like he's playing like an all pro and that his team is trash.

He has sucked shit in the 1st quarter all year and is one of the main reasons why his team is always playing from behind. In the 1st quarter of games this year he is

27/46, 58.7% comp, 285 yards, 1 TD, 13 1st down passes. That's in 7 ****ing games! Almost half a season and he's managed 1 passing TD and a measly 285 yds in the first quarter. Compare that to his 4th quarter stats when he can just throw it against a prevent defense when his team is down double digits. 50/74, 67.5% comp, 685 yds, 7 TDs, 2 Ints. These numbers would be elite and he'd be considered clutch if they'd would have won more than one game.

This is the score of all of his games this year going into the 4th quarter and a little of what transpires

KC - 24 - 7

Balt - 23 - 10

Pit - 20 - 21
Houston was up, but Watson threw an int during an 8 play 42 yd drive at the beginning of the 4th quarter and Pitt capitalized and scored the go ahead TD right after that. Watson gets the ball back down a TD, but he takes one of his patented sacks and goes 3 and out and never sees the ball again. With how great he's been in the 4th quarter this year and how elite he is you'd expect more than 45 yds and an int in the 4th, but he choked the game away.

Min - 24 - 16
Deshaun had a chance to tie the game, but couldn't punch it in when they had the ball with around a minute left 2nd down and 1 yard to go from the Minnesota 1. David Johnson tries to run it in and gets stuffed. Then on 3rd down Watson is running an option and gets scared of a big hit, so he tosses it to David and David doesn't catch it, but he recovers the fumble and it's a 4 yard loss. 4th and 5 gives Watson a chance to redeem himself, but he thinks DeAndre Hopkins is out there running a route and will bail out his shitty overthrown fade route. Not DeAndre does his best, but he can't overcome Watson's shit ball.

Jax - Houston's only win!

Ten -
Deshaun tries really hard, but for some dumb shit reason the Texans go up 7 with 1:53 left in the game and Romeo oh Romeo says "Hey Mr Clutch, go out there and get us 2 points, so this game is over" and Deshaun replies "no probs Romeo O'Brien, I mean Bill, I got this", but Mr. Clutch ain't so clutch and two point conv fails. Ten scores a TD, makes XP, gets ball in OT and drives down for a win.

GB - 28 - 7, but Deshaun tears that prevent up in the 4th and racks up those garbage time numbers to the tune of 100 yards and a TD. 72 and the TD of those yards came in one drive when it really mattered down 35 to 14 with 3:40 left in the game a 2 minute drive to make it a 2 score game. Real nail biter.

Deshaun ****ing sucks. He ain't shit. He got paid and will continually get talked as if he's some elite QB on a team devoid of talent because B.O.B ****ed the franchise. Watson is gonna hit free agency in a few years and get another huge deal because it's not his fault the team never gets above 8-8 again. He will be shitting the bed in the first year of his next deal and everyone will be wondering why Bill O' Brien and his offensive line are still preventing him from winning a game.

Eat shit DeBerg
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Old 12-04-2020, 11:44 AM   #196
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Bayless is becoming a caricature of himself with these constant 'comparisons' between whoever and Mahomes. He was on a couple days ago ranting about how Tom Brady (yet again) out-played Mahomes.

About the only thing I can respect about any of it, is that it takes a lot of effort and intelligence to find ways to twist the facts to arrive at some of his conclusions.

Other than that, it's all pretty stupid, on the level of Jeff-Fisher, Steelerdane, et al.
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Old 12-04-2020, 11:58 AM   #197
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If true, that's a bombshell in the sports journalism world. 30 years ago that would get Bayless fired and blacklisted.
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Old 12-04-2020, 12:02 PM   #198
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If true, that's a bombshell in the sports journalism world. 30 years ago that would get Bayless fired and blacklisted.
Today, no one cares. Accountability and credibility simply aren't virtues Americans care about anymore.
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Old 12-04-2020, 12:08 PM   #199
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Today, no one cares. Accountability and credibility simply aren't virtues Americans care about anymore.
Sadly, I have to agree.
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If true, that's a bombshell in the sports journalism world. 30 years ago that would get Bayless fired and blacklisted.

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Old 12-04-2020, 12:13 PM   #201
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The Bayless making shit up thing is ****ing funny.

On the "BUT T3H WEPUNZ!!!!" thing: Deshaun Watson had Deandre ****ing Hopkins.

**** off with that "He had no help" bullshit

That's a ****ing trash ass throwaway line to compare QBs.

Rodgers has help. He's got a running game and a top 5 WR. Probably top 3. Brady had help last year. He has help this year. Deshaun HAS help this year-- his surrounding team is not nearly as bad as other QBs have it. And he's always had help.

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Old 12-04-2020, 05:48 PM   #202
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Don't look now but Deshaun Watson is top FIVE.
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Don't look now but Deshaun Watson is top FIVE.
Not surprising. Watson is not a bad QB. And he has a gift for escaping the pocket. Add in the fact that HOU dealt away their best receiver for a washed up RB, don't have a pass rush, saddled with a bad secondary, and one of the worst RZ defenses in the league, and it was a given that he was going to be forced to throw a lot.

i am surprised that he leads the league in average yds/att. 8.8 vs. 8.3 for Mahomes. That probably won't last, though. Mahomes is on a tear.
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Old 12-04-2020, 09:31 PM   #204
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If you guys Love Watson so much- why not join the Texans board and stop sucking him off on here?
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Old 12-04-2020, 10:05 PM   #205
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Steve Young might make my top 5 all-time.

Watson might make my top 5 right now.

There's a huge difference between the two, in my opinion.
Steve young isnt in my top 15.

WAYYYYY too much talent to come away with only one championship. I dont just mean him. The whole team. Offense and defense.
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I don't like Watson. He doesn't do it for me. He may have his moments but I don't see elite in him and I don't see a guy that will win a bunch of playoff games.
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Old 12-05-2020, 09:27 AM   #208
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Steve young isnt in my top 15.

WAYYYYY too much talent to come away with only one championship. I dont just mean him. The whole team. Offense and defense.
It's difficult to gauge with so many variables, but I like Steve Young. Trying to think of 15 QBs I'd even consider putting ahead of him: P Manning, Brady, Montana, Elway, Favre, Rodgers, Warner, Marino. I suppose some other guys like Brees and Unitas. Idk.

Point is, Watson is closer to Tony Romo than any of those guys mentioned above, IMO.
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It's difficult to gauge with so many variables, but I like Steve Young. Trying to think of 15 QBs I'd even consider putting ahead of him: P Manning, Brady, Montana, Elway, Favre, Rodgers, Warner, Marino. I suppose some other guys like Brees and Unitas. Idk.

Point is, Watson is closer to Tony Romo than any of those guys mentioned above, IMO.
Young aside, lot of folks here have a curious hate boner for watson.

It stems from people who insisted his arm was far too weak to ever succeed in the NFL. That narrative became a bit of a CP group think. Instead of just saying "I was wrong' it becomes a parade of excuses of why hes not as good as you think.

Hes a top 10 QB. It's silly to argue otherwise at this point. It's just doubling down on wrong.

Regardless, mahomes is top 1 of 1. Watson isnt a threat to his spot.
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CBS reported this morning that Watson went to ownership saying he’d be happy getting Bieniemy as his coach. If he and Dorsey do go there together we just discovered our main rivals for the next 15 years.
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