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Old 11-23-2021, 12:45 PM  
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*** 2022 Mock Draft Megathread ***

Got a mock? Pop it in this thread. Include a picture if you want. Explain your reasoning if you want. Talk about your crushes... if you want.

See a good "pro" mock? Link it up in here and I'll add it to the OP.

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The Draft Network This mock seems to be the most accurate site right now, so I go with this one. I don't pay for it, so no trades here. The plan is for this to be my last mock. I'm going to do it differently, though. I'm running 3 scenarios, and eschewing the 7th round picks, which I would use on a big swings on athleticism and potential. Lotto tickets. James Houston IV is one of them. Note: I used PFF to simulate the trade action, then manually backed up in the 2 "trade" drafts to make selections. Laborious, but gives you best of both worlds, IMO. I think PFF's trade tool is the best, but its board is whack.

Draft slot: 29

Scenario 1: The Chiefs sit pat with their picks and don't make any moves at all. Seems the least likely, but hey...
1.29 | George Karlaftis, DE, Purdue.
1.30 | Boye Mafe, DE, Minnesota.
2.50 | George Pickens, WR, Georgia.
2.62 | Travis Jones, DT, UConn.
3.94 | Zyon McCollum, CB, Sam Houston State.
3.103(Comp for Poles) | Troy Andersen, LB, Montana State.
4.121 | Coby Bryant, CB, Cincinnati.
4.135 | Velus Jones, Jr., Tennessee

Scenario 1 Debrief:
So, sitting and waiting to see what comes to me was pretty successful here. The Chiefs FLOOD the defensive line with reinforcements, including at least 1 ready-made starter and two guys who should - at minimum - be in 50/50 rotations at their spots by year end. The Chiefs still get a big outside WR with tantalizing potential. They add some crazy athletic small-school guys, and a mid-round corner who just fits in the system, and a dynamo return man who might be more at WR.

This looks pretty good. Though I have a hard time believing Karlaftis just falls to 29...

Scenario 2: The Chiefs get aggressive and trade up. But for what? In this case, let's go wide receiver. In this run, Kansas City trades picks 29, 62, and a 2023 3rd to Houston for pick 13 and a 2023 4th, because they ARE as obsessed with a WR as people expect and are aggressive to go get him when the board falls right. They then trade BACK from 30 to 35 with the Jets, also including pick 94 in order to get 69 back. Then, last but not least, KC gets aggressive one more time and moves 103 and 121 for 85 from New England, leaving the Chiefs with 6 picks in the first four rounds.
1.13 | Jameson Williams, WR, Alabama.
2.35 | Cam Thomas, DE, San Diego State.
2.50 | Jalen Pitre, S, Baylor.
3.69 | Zachary Carter, DT, Florida.
3.85 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
4.135 | Jaylen Watson, CB, Washington State

Scenario 2 Debrief:
I'm not saying KC should do this or even that I think they will (more on that in a few minutes). I'm just saying, man, what will it look like if the Chiefs get aggressive a few times AND are doing the big move for a WR? In this scenario, KC obviously believes Williams is a game-changer at the NFL level and is taking a small 2022 hit to make 2023+ better. The defensive line still gets reinforced, but the reinforcements are all a shade worse than the sit-pat draft option. If you like Kingsley Enagbare or Josh PAscal more than Thomas, I get it and wouldn't quibble at one of those guys instead. Logan Hall, too. Pitre is such a screaming perfect fit for KC's D. Carter is a great physical talent you can dream about coaching up. Williams' utility is known and gives them a true RE option to pair against their higher-drafted bigger guy. Watson is a developmental corner.

I don't love it. I think Pitre makes the secondary a lot better and makes it easier to move on from Thornhill after 22. They have improved the defensive rotation, though one of the DEs would need to outperform expectations in Year 1 to get it to the same level as Scenario 1. In all, giving up the 2 extra selections in the top 4 rounds hurts the depth you can build, but I think it's more like what KC will do.

Scenario 3: Same movements as #2
1.13 | Jermaine Johnson II, DE, Florida State.
2.35 | Christian Watson, WR, North Dakota State.
2.50 | Sam Williams, DE, Ole Miss.
3.69 | Bryan Cook, S, Cincinnati.
3.85 | Martin Emerson, CB, Miss. State.
4.135 | Braxton Jones, T, Southern Utah

Scenario 3 Debrief:
This is the type of situation where I see KC paying the price to move up... if Johnson falls this far, I'd be shocked if KC isn't aggressively moving up. With this run, I take a risky but high upside WR in Watson (but you could sub in Pickens or Jahan Dotson or Tolbert or Metchie or Skyy Moore or really any of those tier 2 guys here if you prefer). The secondary reinforcements aren't flashy but are good fits.

In this one, I think the plan has to become adding either another safety or corner in free agency before the season. Ideally, it's someone who can handle the slot and let Sneed thriver on the outside. The DL gets a major boost and some potential star power in Johnson and Williams, and the OL gets another T option and potential long-term starter to develop.

Having completed the exercise and looking at the scenariors, I like the first one the most. But it really does come down to how the board breaks.

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Old 04-25-2022, 05:22 PM   #1186
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I feel like out of all prospects available to us these are the guys that scream Chiefs the most to me:

Boye Mafe
Arnold Ebeketie
Calvin Austin
Sam Williams
Perrion Winfrey
Tariq Woolen
Jalen Pitre
Zion McCollum
Tyquan Thornton
Dax Hill
Lewis Cine
JT Woods
Troy Anderson

If I had to narrow it I’d say Sam Williams and Calvin Austin are the 2 dudes that fit our history. But man Troy Anderson with Bolton and Gay would be crazy

Just ran a 7 round mock with a trade down from 30.


29. Daxton Hill
S Michigan

36. Arnold Ebiketie
EDGE Penn State

50. Boye Mafe
EDGE Minnesota

62. George Pickens
WR Georgia

67. Travis Jones
DT Connecticut

94. Calvin Austin III
WR Memphis

103. Zyon McCollum
CB Sam Houston State

135. Pierre Strong Jr.
RB South Dakota State

233. Velus Jones Jr.
WR Tennessee

243. Ryan Van Demark
OT Connecticut

251. Jeremiah Gemmel
LB North Carolina

259. Dylan Parham
OG Memphis


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Old 04-26-2022, 10:58 AM   #1187
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PFF 4 round mock. Traded out of the 1st twice.

36 - WR, George Pickens
47 - Edge, Josh Paschal
50 - OT, Abraham Lucas
62 - S, Nick Cross
68 - DT, Perion Winfrey
81 - CB, Jalyn Armour Davis
94 - RB, James Cook
113 - WR, Danny Gray
135 - LB, Terrel Bernard
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Old 04-26-2022, 11:43 AM   #1188
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PFF 4 round mock. Traded out of the 1st twice.

36 - WR, George Pickens
47 - Edge, Josh Paschal
50 - OT, Abraham Lucas
62 - S, Nick Cross
68 - DT, Perion Winfrey
81 - CB, Jalyn Armour Davis
94 - RB, James Cook
113 - WR, Danny Gray
135 - LB, Terrel Bernard

That is not worth trading our two firsts. IMO
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Old 04-26-2022, 12:13 PM   #1189
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That is not worth trading our two firsts. IMO
I was gonna take Pickens regardless, so it basically boiled down to Josh Paschal + Perion Winfrey + Jalyn Armour Davis or Travis Jones, the DT from Uconn.
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Old 04-26-2022, 02:46 PM   #1190
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Why doesn't anyone really like Dotson?

Seems like he'd be a good 2nd rounder.
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Old 04-26-2022, 02:47 PM   #1191
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I'll pretend this is my last one, but let's be honest: It won't be.

I moved around a lot. I went into this one with the idea of being aggressive in attacking talent and moving up when I saw oppportunities.

1.30 David Ojabo
2.33 Kyler Gordon
2.38 George Pickens
2.50 DeMarvin Leal
2.55 Cam Thomas
3.68 John Metchie III
6.198 James Houston IV, DE, Jackson St.
7.205 Isaiah Pola-Mao, S, USC

So, only 8 picks total and only 6 in the first 75 picks. I was aggressive about using late 3rd/early 4th resources to move up.

I like the double-ups achieved here at DE and WR. Gordon solidifies the secondary, and some depth pieces are added late. Houston is really a 34 OLB, but I like him here as a pass rush specialist.
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Old 04-26-2022, 03:00 PM   #1192
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Just ran a 7 round mock with a trade down from 30.


29. Daxton Hill
S Michigan

36. Arnold Ebiketie
EDGE Penn State

50. Boye Mafe
EDGE Minnesota

62. George Pickens
WR Georgia

67. Travis Jones
DT Connecticut

94. Calvin Austin III
WR Memphis

103. Zyon McCollum
CB Sam Houston State

135. Pierre Strong Jr.
RB South Dakota State

233. Velus Jones Jr.
WR Tennessee

243. Ryan Van Demark
OT Connecticut

251. Jeremiah Gemmel
LB North Carolina

259. Dylan Parham
OG Memphis


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This would be a slam-dunk draft. Probably unrealistic though.
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Old 04-26-2022, 03:04 PM   #1193
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Why doesn't anyone really like Dotson?

Seems like he'd be a good 2nd rounder.
I really like Dotson. I view him as having a higher floor but lower ceiling than Pickens. A bit like Bolton from last year in that he's likely never going to be a big star but should be a solid contributor for several years.
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Old 04-26-2022, 03:05 PM   #1194
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Didn’t realize Boye Mafe will be 24 in November lol.
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Old 04-26-2022, 03:13 PM   #1195
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Didn’t realize Boye Mafe will be 24 in November lol.
Jermaine Johnson, Devonte Wyatt, Devin Lloyd and Arnold Ebiketie will all be 24 next season
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Old 04-26-2022, 03:24 PM   #1196
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Jermaine Johnson, Devonte Wyatt, Devin Lloyd and Arnold Ebiketie will all be 24 next season
Sheesh, not ideal.
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Old 04-26-2022, 03:30 PM   #1197
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I know it does matter, but should age really be that big of a deal?

Likely that they aren't here more than 4-6 years anyway.
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Old 04-26-2022, 03:41 PM   #1198
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I know it does matter, but should age really be that big of a deal?

Likely that they aren't here more than 4-6 years anyway.
I think people make way too big of a deal of it.

I mean, he's 24, not 34.
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Old 04-26-2022, 03:50 PM   #1199
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I know it does matter, but should age really be that big of a deal?

Likely that they aren't here more than 4-6 years anyway.
I think it's more about the development arc and projecting a player's ceiling going forward. A 24-year-old player is probably projected much closer to his ceiling than a 22-year-old. These are still "kids" as Andy Reid calls them.

I think it's less about earlier deterioration of athletic ability due to older age.
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Old 04-26-2022, 04:21 PM   #1200
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With the way Covid worked in general you had a ton of talented guys come out early so then all their backups got a lot of play as sophomores and came out in 2021 as one of the best draft classes ever. This year is a lot of seniors and leftovers from that class. That's why everyone is old and has ratings like Pretty Good, Not Great But Okay, High Floor
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