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**Saulbadguy** · 09-12-2011, 07:57 AM

The old one has AIDS.

Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month.

Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com.

Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said.

The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said.

Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned.

If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday.

There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12.

Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative.

Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division.

Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox).

If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form.

Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options."

Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas.

Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas.

There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits.

Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC.

It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools.

Stay tuned.

Bambi · 09-23-2011, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

He's too stupid to know the difference between revenue and net revenue.

huh?

Is that really your point? Yes, I'm a "net revenue" kinda guy

ChiefsCountry · 09-23-2011, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

It doesn't work.

Here is the main page.
http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/

Then do institution search.

Bambi · 09-23-2011, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Thanks for proving my point.

Moving football teams around cost a lot of money.

A lot less than your bball team.

Keep chiming though. Fact is Syrascuse is a bball school. And they were desired by a conference.

The last year of your claims are worthless.

Bambi · 09-23-2011, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Hell KU football actually brings in more revenue than KU basketball.

And paying for the football team costs a lot more.

Why is this so hard for you three to understand?

Bambi · 09-23-2011, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

It doesn't work.

Here are the Syracuse numbers. As you can see the football team actually costs the school money while the basketball team makes the school approx 8 million a year.

Mosbonian · 09-23-2011, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kstater

Mizzou trying to puff out their chest is amusing.

Some particular reason that you have your panties all in a wad today just because we don't want to hang around to be OU and UT's lapdog?

Stay in the U R (my) B**** 12 and have fun watching Texas and Oklahoma make your life miserable every year or 2 when someone brings them a proposal that will make them rich without having to share it with "your little sisters in the conference"

Pants · 09-23-2011, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

Here are the Syracuse numbers. As you can see the football team actually costs the school money while the basketball team makes the school approx 8 million a year.

That looks to me like Syracuse made 4 mil on their FB team and 10 mil on their BB team.

Bambi · 09-23-2011, 08:58 AM

Here are the numbers for Kansas. Both sports make KU money. However the value of a Championship level basketball program makes KU's 3rd tier income very high.

Another school that firmly relies on bball to make them $$.

Just like Duke, Syracuse, Stanford, etc etc

|Zach| · 09-23-2011, 08:58 AM

Which Football and Basketball Programs Produce the Largest Profits?

http://businessofcollegesports.com/2...rgest-profits/

It takes a while to get to the Kansas basketball program in terms of profit...

Go down the top 10...then move past Georgia Tech Football....past Pitt basketball...then keep going...past Northwestern football...and it is at #73.

Bambi · 09-23-2011, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants

That looks to me like Syracuse made 4 mil on their FB team and 10 mil on their BB team.

Oh yea my bad. I was looking at total.

But the point is still valid.

Thanks Pants!

**DaKCMan AP** · 09-23-2011, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wickedson

In 2010 the Syracuse Basketball program earned the school $10 million more than their football program.

'just sayin

http://money.cnn.com/2010/03/18/news...fits/index.htm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wickedson

huh?

Is that really your point? Yes, I'm a "net revenue" kinda guy

Earnings and net revenue are not the same thing. You fail.

Mosbonian · 09-23-2011, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by frazod

Really? I've basically noticed him do two things over the years - start Royals game threads and announce that he's putting on ignore anyone who calls him for being a sniping bitch.

He does make good points in some areas...but his problem is that he gets really pissy when we all don't just agree he is always correct.

But...I would agree with what you say here. He seems to have a very thin skin when it comes to disagreeing. I'm betting his ignore list is long.

Mosbonian · 09-23-2011, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wickedson

Oh yea my bad. I was looking at total.

But the point is still valid.

Thanks Pants!

I take it you aren't an Accounting Major?

Bambi · 09-23-2011, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach|

Which Football and Basketball Programs Produce the Largest Profits?

http://businessofcollegesports.com/2...rgest-profits/

It takes a while to get to the Kansas basketball program in terms of profit...

Go down the top 10...then move past Georgia Tech Football....past Pitt basketball...then keep going...past Northwestern football...and it is at #73.

Thanks. This list also helps my point.

Syracuse is a bball school. They were in demand by the ACC.

eazyb81 · 09-23-2011, 09:01 AM

Jesus, who gives a **** about Syracuse's basketball profit.

09-12-2011, 07:57 AM
Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Saulbadguy's Avatar Join Date: Nov 2003	New Conference re-alignment thread The old one has AIDS. Anyways, Chip Brown from Orangebloods.com reports OU may apply to the Pac-12 by the end of the month. Oklahoma will apply for membership to the Pac-12 before the end of the month, and Oklahoma State is expected to follow suit, a source close to OU's administration told Orangebloods.com. Even though Pac-12 commissioner Larry Scott said Friday the Pac-12 was not interested in expansion at this time, OU's board of regents is fed up with the instability in the Big 12, the source said. The OU board of regents will meet within two weeks to formalize plans to apply for membership to the Pac-12, the source said. Messages left Sunday night with OU athletic director Joe Castiglione and Oklahoma State athletic director Mike Holder were not immediately returned. If OU follows through with what appears to be a unanimous sentiment on the seven-member Oklahoma board of regents to leave the Big 12, realignment in college athletics could be heating back up. OU's application would be matched by an application from Oklahoma State, the source said, even though OSU president Burns Hargis and mega-booster Boone Pickens both voiced their support for the Big 12 last Thursday. There is differing sentiment about if the Pac-12 presidents and chancellors are ready to expand again after bringing in Colorado and Utah last year and landing $3 billion TV contracts from Fox and ESPN. Colorado president Bruce Benson told reporters last week CU would be opposed to any expansion that might bring about east and west divisions in the Pac-12. Currently, there are north and south divisions in the Pac-12. If OU and OSU were to join, Larry Scott would have to get creative. Scott's orginal plan last summer was to bring in Colorado, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and put them in an eastern division with Arizona and Arizona State. The old Pac-8 schools (USC, UCLA, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Oregon State, Washington and Washington State) were to be in the west division. Colorado made the move in June 2010, but when Texas A&M was not on board to go west, the Big 12 came back together with the help of its television partners (ABC/ESPN and Fox). If Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were accepted into the Pac-12, there would undoubtedly be a hope by Larry Scott that Texas would join the league. But Texas sources have indicated UT is determined to hang onto the Longhorn Network, which would not be permissible in the Pac-12 in its current form. Texas sources continue to indicate to Orangebloods.com that if the Big 12 falls apart, the Longhorns would consider "all options." Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe held an emergency conference call 10 days ago with league presidents excluding Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M and asked the other league presidents to "work on Texas" because Beebe didn't think the Pac-12 would take Oklahoma without Texas. Now, it appears OU is willing to take its chances with the Pac-12 with or without Texas. There seemed to be a temporary pause in any possible shifting of the college athletics' landscape when Baylor led a charge to tie up Texas A&M's move to the Southeastern Conference in legal red tape. BU refused to waive its right to sue the SEC over A&M's departure from the Big 12, and the SEC said it would not admit Texas A&M until it had been cleared of any potential lawsuits. Baylor, Kansas and Iowa State have indicated they will not waive their right to sue the SEC. It's unclear if an application by OU to the Pac-12 would draw the same threats of litigation against the Pac-12 from those Big 12 schools. Stay tuned.
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09-23-2011, 08:58 AM	#1133
Bambi Banned Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New York City	Here are the numbers for Kansas. Both sports make KU money. However the value of a Championship level basketball program makes KU's 3rd tier income very high. Another school that firmly relies on bball to make them $$. Just like Duke, Syracuse, Stanford, etc etc
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09-23-2011, 08:58 AM	#1134
\|Zach\| For The Glory Of The City \|Zach\|'s Avatar Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Kansas City	Which Football and Basketball Programs Produce the Largest Profits? http://businessofcollegesports.com/2...rgest-profits/ It takes a while to get to the Kansas basketball program in terms of profit... Go down the top 10...then move past Georgia Tech Football....past Pitt basketball...then keep going...past Northwestern football...and it is at #73.
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09-23-2011, 09:01 AM	#1140
eazyb81 The Illuminati eazyb81's Avatar Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: the road less traveled	Jesus, who gives a **** about Syracuse's basketball profit.
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