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Old 10-09-2019, 08:20 AM   #2
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What pushy messenging was supposed to be in this movie?
I am guessing here but probably that we need to consider mental health to be important for those that don't have access to services, as well as taking the ultra rich down a few pegs. I am guessing they won't make a Batman movie based off this, but it would be interesting to see how he is portrayed. Does the bat continue to beat the shit out of impoverished nobody criminals or will he actually go after white collar shits and beat the piss out of them? As it sits now Joker is an idol and symbol to the broken and poor in that universe.
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Old 10-09-2019, 07:04 PM   #3
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Old 10-10-2019, 08:09 AM   #4
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This makes me want to see this movie. From the previews that I have been seeing a lot in the past month, I didn't think I would care that much. But now, it seems that this may be worth checking out.
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Old 10-11-2019, 05:07 AM   #5
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This makes me want to see this movie. From the previews that I have been seeing a lot in the past month, I didn't think I would care that much. But now, it seems that this may be worth checking out.
It's not a super hero movie. Some don't realize that and trash it. Some wanted more action. More "stuff" to happen. More Batman etc. etc.

It doesn't make it crystal clear when reality is occurring and when its in the Jokers mind. You figure it out on your own but the Director assumes your an intelligent being and he doesn't have to put huge blinking signs up when we are in the Jokers mind and when its the movies reality.

This is mainly a movie about one mans decent into his madness and what happens when he looses his grip on reality. It didn't have to be a joker movie. Phoenix's performance of that descent is why you go see this movie.

Actors have said playing a crazy person is too hard because it either comes off as cartoonish or you back off and then it doesn't really show the depth and menace of mental illness. You WILL believe Phoenix is really crazy. Hope someone is checking on his welfare after playing this role.
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Old 10-13-2019, 10:08 PM   #6
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It's not a super hero movie. Some don't realize that and trash it. Some wanted more action. More "stuff" to happen. More Batman etc. etc.

It doesn't make it crystal clear when reality is occurring and when its in the Jokers mind. You figure it out on your own but the Director assumes your an intelligent being and he doesn't have to put huge blinking signs up when we are in the Jokers mind and when its the movies reality.

This is mainly a movie about one mans decent into his madness and what happens when he looses his grip on reality. It didn't have to be a joker movie. Phoenix's performance of that descent is why you go see this movie.

Actors have said playing a crazy person is too hard because it either comes off as cartoonish or you back off and then it doesn't really show the depth and menace of mental illness. You WILL believe Phoenix is really crazy. Hope someone is checking on his welfare after playing this role.
Phoenix actually says he has no issue after he's done with a role. You should watch some of his interviews, he's totally not into the Hollywood star image.. totally straight shooter
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What pushy messenging was supposed to be in this movie?
Or, if PJW doesn't do it for you....
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Old 10-09-2019, 07:17 PM   #8
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What pushy messenging was supposed to be in this movie?
anguish of a fractured mind leading to violence AKA Columbine shooting if you want to stretch it for pussies
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